I have also done this using CFX_PGP. In our case, we FTPed the
order and PGP-encrypted CC info to a Unix server and they moved
the file to a secure location behind a firewall and deleted it
from the FTP folder. You could also do this via VPN.

Another question: has anyone found any shared hosts that support
CFX_PGP?

Thanks,

Megan
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Alpha 60 Design Shop
http://www.alpha60.com
phone: 202-745-6393
fax:   202-745-6394

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alex Santantonio [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 11:22 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Storing Credit Cards
>
>
> If you must store credit card info, it might be a good
> idea to follow some
> of these steps in addition to the typical Secure
> Certificate and so on.  You
> should absolutely encrypt them using PGP or some other
> type of encryption.
> I have used CF_PGP on several clients and it works
> quite well.  You could
> probably use some sort of ASP PGP COM object with CF
> instead of paying the
> $400 for CF_PGP.  In addition to this, you can also
> create an automated
> process that will transfer the card numbers from the
> live database to
> another database that is not accessible through the
> site in any way.  Then
> write the good old xx*****xxxx to the live database
> for future management.
> Then you can transfer your billing software that you
> write to actually
> charge the cards on the schedule behind this secure
> section so only people
> within the office or from a certain IP address can
> process cards.  This will
> at least make it much more difficult to get at this
> data, and if your
> database is hacked or stolen from your live site, the
> only cards that might
> even be in there would be the ones that were not yet
> transferred, and those
> would be encrypted in PGP so it would take someone a
> good deal of time to
> get at it that way.  So in short.
>
> 1. Store credit cards PGP encrypted in the database
> 2. Transfer on a schedule and store them in a separate
> Database with the
> info on the live database overwritten
> 3. Move billing management behind a firewall or some
> server that is no way
> accessible to the outside.
>
> This should at least minimize your risk a bit.
>
> Alex Santantonio
> Lead Developer
> Macromedia Coldfusion 5 Certified Professional
> Macromedia Certified Web Site Developer
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> www.doceus.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Stone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 10:55 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Storing Credit Cards
>
> I am hoping that someone in this group may be able to
> help me.  The company
> I work for is building a service-based ecommerce
> website.  Because this site
> sells website space to other customers, I need to
> charge these customers
> monthly for the services we are providing.  Therefore,
> I believe I am going
> to have to store the customer's credit card numbers in
> order to charge their
> cards every month for their continued use of our services.
>
> I have done quite a few product-based ecommerce sites
> in the past and have
> never had to face this issue.  In the past, I have
> used Cybersource and
> Cybercash passing them the user's credit card
> information at the time of
> purchase and then just storing the authorization code
> that was returned in
> my database.  Then, when the products were shipped, I
> would pass the
> authorization code back to Cybersource and they would
> give me a billing code
> that would confirm that a request for the card to be
> charged had been
> completed.  This was very secure because I never had
> to store the credit
> card numbers at all.  The only problem is that these
> authorization codes are
> only good for 7-10 days, so I cannot use this same
> process for my current
> customer.
>
> I know there are a lot of people out there currently
> storing credit cards.
> I know all of the ISPs must be doing it to be able to
> constantly charge my
> credit card each month.  Has anyone done this before,
> and if so, how?  I
> have spent the last couple of days looking for the best
> encryption/decryption scheme, but at the sore lack of
> information that I
> have found, I thought I would turn to this group for
> some advice (assuming
> that someone out there must have the answer).  I would
> also be interested in
> knowing if anyone is aware of a third party clearing
> house or payment
> processor that can provide a very secure credit card
> storage service.  As
> you can tell, I am very hesitant to want to store
> these credit card numbers
> at all.
>
> Any help you all may be able to give would be much appreciated.
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Jeff Stone
> Stone Grove Design
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> 
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