Oh, and also, Paris makes some good points about breaking up your messages into smaller chunks. I'd stick with < 30K of files per directory if you don't want the OS to start blowing chunks. Mileage may vary, test it yourself first...
-Cameron -------------------- Cameron Childress elliptIQ Inc. p.770.460.1035.232 f.770.460.0963 -- http://www.neighborware.com America's Leading Community Network Software > -----Original Message----- > From: Cameron Childress [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 10:53 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: CFmail Recount > > > > Hmm i'm wondering why you think CFFILE would be any better. If the > > corruption comes from writing the email message to the drive > over and over > > again, I don't see how the situation would change. Hmmmm. A different > > drive would get corrupted that way? :) > > You can often send more mails out this way because the files written by > CFFILE to a SMTP server's pickup dir will be processed virtually > right away > in most cases. I've has great success using the SMTP service that comes > with IIS for this very purpose. CFMAIL tops out relaying just under 400 > messages per minute, IIS's SMTP set up as purely a relay to another "real" > SMTP server will blast messages off your server at a MUCH faster > rate (we're > talking thousands per minute). Much faster relay times, plus it doesn't > consume a CF thread while sending as CFMAIL will. > > One caveat I have found with sending via IIS's SMTP pickup dir though, the > system goes slower if you write directly to this dir. I typically will > write to another dir and programmatically create an AT scheduled event to > copy the files over to the pickup dir all at once. This speeds up CF's > writing of the files, and takes the burden even further off CF > and onto the > OS/Web server. Sounds a little clunky, but trust me, it works great! > > Oh, did I mention this solution is free? > > -Cameron > > -------------------- > Cameron Childress > elliptIQ Inc. > p.770.460.1035.232 > f.770.460.0963 > -- > http://www.neighborware.com > America's Leading Community Network Software > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Bryant Tyson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 10:38 AM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: Re: CFmail Recount > > > > > > On Mon, 29 Oct 2001, Justin Scott wrote: > > > > > Eek! Sorry to hear about your bad luck! I can tell you that > if you're > > > sending out THAT many e-mails, you're better off... > > > > > > 1) Getting a separate server dedicated to handling SMTP > > spooling, then use > > > CFFILE to write the messages directly to the spooler pickup directory > > > instead of using CFMAIL. > > > > Hmm i'm wondering why you think CFFILE would be any better. If the > > corruption comes from writing the email message to the drive > over and over > > again, I don't see how the situation would change. Hmmmm. A different > > drive would get corrupted that way? :) > > > > Ok 3 new questions: > > 1 - What method does House of Fusion use? CFMAIL or CFFILE? > > 2 - Anyone from Macromedia have any light they can shed on this > situation? > > 3 - Does anyone do a huge mailing list on their (a client's) server that > > hasn't corrupted the disk over time? > > > > > 2) Outsource your mailings to a company that specializes in > this type of > > > thing, such as Postmaster General > > (http://www.postmastergeneral.com/). One > > > of our clients used them to do a weekly mailing to about a million > > > subcribers without a hitch. > > > > Thanks Justin, i'll keep this company for reference just in case this > > issue can't be solved on a local level. > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Bryant Tyson, WEB DEVELOPER > > http://webtys.com > > WebTY's, The Educated Choice. > > > > > -Justin Scott, Lead Developer > > > Sceiron Internet Services, Inc. > > > http://www.sceiron.com > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Bryant Tyson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 12:43 AM > > > Subject: CFmail Recount > > > > > > > > > > Thenks for the info Critter. Much appreciated. :) > > > > > > > > Now for a little story about what happened today. I created a > > newsletter > > > > page so that a registered base of 150,000+ subscribers > would get it on > > > > what would most likely be a weekly basis. On its first run > > today however, > > > > it sent out approximately 2000 emails and then... exploded. > > It didn't just > > > > stop sending emails though, instead the entire server got fried! > > > > > > > > I called up the ISP and they say there's massive corruption > > throughout the > > > > harddrive!?!?! WTF? Since the only thing that happened out of the > > > > oridinary was the newsletter mailing today, they surmised > > that it was the > > > > cause of the meltdown. Once again I ask... WTF?! Is > > ColdFusion unstable to > > > > the point that sending out a newsletter would fry the > > server?!? One theory > > > > is that messages got bounced back to the server and it > > couldn't handle the > > > > load of outgoing and incoming. Ok fine, i'll buy that > > partially. Maybe it > > > > was indeed a wussy server. But corruption? File corruption from > > > > getting/sending emails? Hell the server wont even boot up now! > > > > > > > > Has anyone else had this happen to them? > > > > > > > > So here's a word of caution to anyone doing a newsletter from > > me. Try not > > > > to fry your server in the process. *laugh* I still can't > believe this > > > > happened. > > > > > > > > Oh yeah, for those interrested in the code that allegedly > > melted down the > > > > server, here it is: > > > > > > > > <cfquery datasource="zzz" name="newsletter"> > > > > SELECT date, slug, content > > > > FROM newsletter > > > > WHERE newsletter_id=#form.tid# > > > > </cfquery> > > > > > > > > <cfquery datasource="zzz" name="receivers"> > > > > SELECT email_address > > > > FROM members > > > > WHERE newsletter_flag=-1 > > > > </cfquery> > > > > > > > > <cfmail TO="#receivers.email_address#" > > > > FROM="[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > > > > BCC="[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > > > > QUERY="receivers" > > > > SUBJECT="#newsletter.slug#"> > > > > ZZZ Newsletter > > > > #DateFormat(newsletter.date, "DDDD, MMMM D YYYY")# > > > > #receivers.email_address# > > > > ================================================================= > > > > > > > > #newsletter.content# > > > > > > > > ================================================================= > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE > > > > Here's how to unsubscribe or change your settings. > > > > http://www.zzz.com/updateprofile.asp > > > > </cfmail> > > > > > > > > .. and yes, that's how I know 2000 emails got sent out, > because I got > > > > 2000+ blind CC's. Left it in there from the testing phase. Ugh. > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Bryant Tyson, WEB DEVELOPER > > > > http://webtys.com > > > > WebTY's, The Educated Choice. > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
