put a cfoutput around your entire form and use cfloop for query looping! -----Original Message----- From: Tristram Charnley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: vrijdag 9 november 2001 10:53 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Javascript Vs. CF Form Validation
Leaving aside the validation issues, I like CF Form and CF input because I don't have to put all those <cfoutput>tags around variables on big update forms.. Tris ----- Original Message ----- From: "BILLY CRAVENS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 11:16 PM Subject: Re: Javascript Vs. CF Form Validation > I understand where you're coming from - just came out wrong, I suppose. If > CFForm doesn't do what you need, you should write you're own JavaScript - > but on the flip side, always do server-side validation - even if you can > write JS that does the same thing. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mookie Bear" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 4:59 PM > Subject: Re: Javascript Vs. CF Form Validation > > > > I'm not against server-side validation. in fact i use it alot. it's > just > > that when i was a beginner I would choose it over simple javascript that > > couldnt be done with CFFORM. There were times where javascript was better > > for the job, but i went for server side instead cuz i didnt wanna learn > > jaavscript. So i took a wild guess that most of yall were prolly like me > eh > > hehe. Please dont take it personal > > > > also, it is true what you say, people do turn off their javascript! So i > > use both kinds of validations even though the server side is always the > sure > > way > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "BILLY CRAVENS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Subject: Re: Javascript Vs. CF Form Validation > > >Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 16:41:32 -0600 > > > > > >I'd like to add a few additional reasons why. To be honest, I've never > > >been > > >a fan of the "real programmers don't do it this way" arguments. > > > > > >- additional time to load - CF has to dynamically build JS which could be > > >already coded > > >- limitations - There's certain things that CFForm can't do. For > example, > > >CFForm allows you to make sure a field isn't blank, right? What if the > > >user > > >enters a space - this should be the same thing as a blank field, but > CFForm > > >doesn't catch it. > > > > > >However, I've gotta disagree with your stance on server-side validation. > A > > >well developed application performs BOTH client and server-side > validation. > > >(Depending on client-side validation is a BAD idea, since it's easy to > turn > > >off JS, and anyone with marginal HTML knowledge can circumvent your form > > >pages to crash or exploit your pages) > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: "Mookie Bear" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 4:41 PM > > >Subject: Javascript Vs. CF Form Validation > > > > > > > > > > These are just my thoughts on the subject... > > > > > > > > Using CFFORM to validate your forms is the lazy/quick way to go. If > you > > > > haven't started, I recommend that most people learn javascript and > build > > >a > > > > javascript template that validates a lot of things, such as emails, > > >numbers, > > > > names, conditional stuff, and pretty much anything you want. Then if > > >you > > > > want a form on your page validated just write a one liner to pass that > > >form > > > > value to the javascript template you built and have it validated. You > > >can > > > > use this tmeplate for all of your projects! I found it very helpful! > > > > CFFORM is an excuse not to learn javascript! In fact, I bet some of > you > > > > would rather write lines and lines of CF server side code to validate > > > > something and then locate them to a new page based on conditions, > rather > > > > than learn javascript and have it do the validation right on the spot! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists

