yeah good way to skin the project pool :) I find the alternatives littered with syntax issues and illogical syntax in many regards... I split it by saying that if you can write a C program or Java you can build the things CF can't or doesn't do natively... fortunate that in my world I say whatever to project like that ... but for my own stuff I have about hit the wall... things like peer-to-peer aren't going to be developed in CF without tie-in to other things... so Java is my new playground for some stuff..
With people's hourly rates being embarrassingly high, every client should demand CF development to control costs.. roll your own client management and buy a good cache management for your Java-solution and find your client wondering who you are trying to rip off... I guess as I always say, know your market and what they need and what they will spend... If you are building some huge-budget implementation with massive scalability and proprietary stuff... then by all means the others are better in some areas... Notably, Java and its adaptability to many platforms and the state issue... don't forget the multi million dollar project budget... Needless to say, 95% of all businesses are small businesses.... that means 20 million a year of revenue or less.. they are not web centric and their margins are likely small on products... some of their highest bills are their legal counselors.. which bill at about the same rate as the web people... on average... at any rate... if clients are deep pocketed enough and readily available sure, learn it and sell it... otherwise, the intellectual pursuit is admirable and you employability is better... still reminds me of my friends who speak like 5 foreign languages.. hardly see the point of learning to learn... you only can do one thing at a time... :) admirable but a tad less enjoyable than perhaps taking a vacation :) -paris -----Original Message----- From: Steve Reich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 19:11 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: asp vs. cf > My boss just asked me for a list of pros and cons. I want to show him that > CF is superior to ASP, but I don't know ASP. If you guys could help with my > list I'd appreciate it. I will add to this by saying that I am a CF programmer at heart, but I am presently working on an ASP application. Cold Fusion is faster, easier, and probably more scalable to use, yes, no doubt about it. But it does effect you as a developer by hiding the real guts of what's happening. You can be the world's greatest CF programmer, but if that's all you know, then you are severely limited in the services you can provide. I would even go as far to say that you're not *really* even a programmer. You are just a glorified software operator. (I am using 'you' collectively and not singling you out. It applies to all of us.) Programming, in any language involves two key concepts: logic and syntax. Cold Fusion will teach you logic. But it does not teach you syntax. From that perspective, Cold Fusion tricks you into thinking you are a master programmer. I jump at the chance to program in ASP or JSP simply because it improves my own personal skills and, in turn, my marketability. I think of it as paid training. Yes, I bitch (to myself) the whole way through about how much easier it is with CF. But in the end, I am versatile. If the platform decision falls on my shoulders, then I recommend CF for all the reasons everyone else will tell you. But if someone else makes the decision, I am prepared. I guess in the end, it depends on what your own personal and professional goals are. But I personally, don't want to be bound by any one development platform. FWIW, Steve ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
