I agree they are definately way to overzealous and their server sucks. Probably because no one will host them :) However, they are not the worst. We got onto some list called Pegasus or something a while back, and it is absolutely insane how they run this thing. They do a lookup on ARIN and block every netblock that is owned by the netblock that failed one of their tests. We think a dial up customer sent some spam, not sure though. Their web site does not tell how one got on their blacklist and they do not answer emails. We were never able to get off of their list despite the fact that orbs thinks we are fine... We actually went and got a couple more netblocks and another backup backbone provider, stuck our mail servers on the new backbone and forgot about them. We might still be blacklisted for all I know :-) What's worse is that the people who use the blacklist services really do not know how these lists work. I talked to two different admins that ran this Pegasus list and they had no clue how one got on or off the list. They also didn't know who ran it or how it was run. Sounds like a protection racket to me.
jon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bryan Stevenson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 11:37 AM Subject: Re: OT: SPAM lists? > It's the fact that the legit folks get nailed as well. > > Listen..we all agree that spam is evil...we all agree that mail servers > should not be open.....BUT is it so bad to give the folks running the server > a chance to fix it first?? My issue is that once found to be open it is > incredibly difficult to get off the blacklist. This means that legit folks > can be without mail for a long time. Even if ORDB continues to aid in > stopping legit mail, they could at least invest in some decent hardware and > bandwidth. I mean 5-10 hours to test a mail server is so ridiculous it's > not funny. If they are going to keep it up then the test should be avble to > be performed in a matter of minutes and not hours. > > They suck....I'm right...so na na na na naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa ;-) > > Bryan Stevenson > VP & Director of E-Commerce Development > Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. > p. 250.920.8830 > e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists