I think its fair to outline who really needs what... For instance I outline/assess clients before proposals go out...
A client is: A. A startup with little or no cash B. A startup with funding to be used for the project C. Traditional company (assess conservative level and former technology investments across company) D. A Main Street business (look at D&B for financials) E. A GROWTH business (defined by new market opportunity, expansion of existing business or other timely info) With A, C and D, money is always tight. IF the client needs development great. If CF price is out of park, send them out to be hosted elsewhere. If the company is using it for intranet or similar, tell them to quit being cheap. With B & E, there is a cost justification. Professional billable (not mine - just law of averages) is $100 per hour. $1500/100=15 hours of time to buy CF. Some key things that often need rolled, cache mechanism, session management and user login validation... Those 3 modules in other lands can cost a fortune (talk to your Java friends about that).... Telling them that these are mostly covered in CF natively, more than covers the minimal cost. My target market is mainly A & D, so the cost thing is real. We just like to view them as ASP model customers and call it a day... If people don't have the cash for CF, they likely can't afford your development time, a server, IT person or any real internet connectivity, so the point becomes a bit moot on conversion and value of freeware over CF... -paris -----Original Message----- From: John Dowdell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 15:32 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: death of coldfusion, not At 9:06 PM 12/29/1, Fregas wrote: > I'm sure this has been discussed before on here but its > appearance on allaire forums has me disturbed..... Well, it's hard to prove a negative, true... such bantering threads are common enough online, so might as well get used to them. Of course, since the internet's dying, and global warming will kill all of us soon anyway, I guess the whole point is moot.... ;-) Me, I'm excited by what's coming down the line. Although application servers are becoming a commodity, the total cost of development will continue to be a critical driving factor. Portable libraries atop various engines seem quite promising, particularly when they're directly linked to multi-device client-side interactivity engines like Flash. I'm very bullish on all this. The goal here in the shop is to provide tools and technologies so you can earn a good living, and so that we can all improve this world together. I find it a very exciting time to be doing this type of work. jd John Dowdell, Macromedia Tech Support, San Francisco CA US Search technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/search/ Offlist email risks capture by the spam filters. I may not see your email if it's not on the list. Private one-on-one email options are available via Priority Access: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ ______________________________________________________________________ Why Share? Dedicated Win 2000 Server � PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation � $99/Month � Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionc FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
