James Sleeman wrote: 
> Flash isn't designed to be an interface toolkit, it is designed 
> to deliver animation and whizzy interactive things, let it do 
> what it's best at, leave the interface display to the various 
> libraries designed to be interface toolkits (and in the case of 
> web sites, to the HTML).


James; 

I respect the fact that you are entitled to your own opinion, and I 
think it
is cool that you have so much knowledge about developing. Your comments 
make
me think, though, you may want to take another look at Flash and get to
learn the Actionscript language, because there is a lot more you can do 
with
it than you are giving credit for. 

Flash is nothing but modular, once you get to know Actionscript. I have
large libraries of functions, I have large directories of components I 
use
time and time again, and I have movies that access databases via 
middleware
and add/edit/delete/update the data. Given the fact AS is so simple to 
use
and similar to JS (they are like 5 year old cousins), It is hard to see 
how
anyone could develop simple user interfaces faster in Java or any other
compiled language. 

If you want, I can send you some examples and I think you will be 
impressed.


Peace,
Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: James Sleeman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 12:23 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re:[2] Jeremy Allaire interview on DevX


Jon Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 2/8/2002 6:24:23 PM:
>
>stas wrote:
>> So you want to design your GUI in Flash 
>
>I want to design a GUI with the tool that gives me the most power, 
with 
>  the least amount of code.

It would take considerably longer I believe to implement a competent 
gui in
flash than to hand code in your toolkit of choice in 
compiled/interpreted language (eg Swing on Java, GTK in C, TK In Tcl,
wxWindows in Python).

>> re-invent every little widget?
>It's called originality. Take an html select box widget for example. 
It 
>takes almost no code to create and stlye to create any kind of look 
>compared to what it takes to create in say CSharp, which I have been 
>working with lately. I long for style sheets when doing a form 
>component, just because it's what I'm used too.

It's called consistency, and that is the driving force behind toolkits 
in
the first place, it is much easier for the user if one programs 
"checkbox" 
looks and works the same as other program's checkboxes. Not to mention 
that
it vastly increases code reuse and helps to enforce a modular 
approach for the engineer.  Flash isn't designed to be an interface 
toolkit,
it is designed to deliver animation and whizzy interactive things, let 
it do

what it's best at, leave the interface display to the various libraries
designed to be interface toolkits (and in the case of web sites, to the
HTML).

---
James Sleeman


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