Dave, at the end of the day it boils down to semiology - ye may as well call them ducks and dogs - we differ our billing around whether someone could (for example) buy a magazine, install a free dreamweaver trial and build a web page (duck/coder/muppet/whatever) and someone who can write (for example) a unique bespoke application built in Java and plugged in as a CFX Applet (dog/programmer/guru/whatever-plus-plus) - therefore we bill "coder" work as work that involves formatting, authouring, using describing "code" and we bill "programming" as work that involves an understanding of well formed programming languages - hence my argument that those people coming to Fusebox from a "page formatting" history will find it harder to understand and adopt that those who come to Fusebox from an Object Oriented history.... :)
J -----Original Message----- From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 17:07 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: What's the difference between a coder and a programmer?? > Coder = Someone who can work predominately with Mark Up languages coder != someone who can work with markup languages That's not coding. It's authoring, or formatting. I worked with markup languages (primarily as a technical writer) long before HTML became popular, and I was never a coder or a programmer in any meaningful sense during that time. I always pitied those programmers, because they had to work such long hours. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ voice: (202) 797-5496 fax: (202) 797-5444 ______________________________________________________________________ Get Your Own Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionb FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists