Dave, at the end of the day it boils down to semiology - ye may as well call
them ducks and dogs - we differ our billing around whether someone could
(for example) buy a magazine, install a free dreamweaver trial and build a
web page (duck/coder/muppet/whatever) and someone who can write (for
example) a unique bespoke application built in Java and plugged in as a CFX
Applet (dog/programmer/guru/whatever-plus-plus) - therefore we bill "coder"
work as work that involves formatting, authouring, using describing "code"
and we bill "programming" as work that involves an understanding of well
formed programming languages - hence my argument that those people coming to
Fusebox from a "page formatting" history will find it harder to understand
and adopt that those who come to Fusebox from an Object Oriented history....
:)

J

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 17:07
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: What's the difference between a coder and a programmer??


> Coder = Someone who can work predominately with Mark Up languages

coder != someone who can work with markup languages

That's not coding. It's authoring, or formatting. I worked with markup
languages (primarily as a technical writer) long before HTML became popular,
and I was never a coder or a programmer in any meaningful sense during that
time. I always pitied those programmers, because they had to work such long
hours.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
voice: (202) 797-5496
fax: (202) 797-5444


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