I was being sarcastic, meaning that clients will always come up with some 
foolish idea.  From a recent discussion here, having the local weather 
(Relative to home office) taking up 90% of the Corporate Intranet homepage 
when the bulk of the users are from a remote location.  I believe your 
standpoint is that even though that may be a bad design decision, it 
doesn't mean that the code is written poorly?  I was referring to an 
application as a whole, including the GUI.

  Although on another note, most of my clients do have CF Skill in some 
extent.  I'm usually hired specifically for my database design skills or 
other 'big / complicated stuff.' They do the simple stuff on there own.  It 
has both benefits and problems.  On one of my last projects, I bid out to 
add 'X, Y, Z' functionality to the site.  The client thought I was going to 
also re-code everything he had coded in the 'right' way.  There is a big 
communication gap there, as you can imagine.


At 08:55 AM 3/14/2002 -0600, you wrote:
>not being contradictory here but,
>
>how does too much client envolment hinder a well written application?  most
>of the clients i've worked with don't have the CF skillset in the
>organization so I've been able to keep everything pretty clean, as our
>individual interpretations of "clean" go.  I would think that our service
>is applying technology to business rules.  if they, the consumers, don't
>know the tech., how can they have destructive input?
>
>possibly just lucky w/ the clients i've had?...savan
>
>
>
>
>Jeffry Houser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 03/13/2002 07:05:04 PM
>
>Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>To:   CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>cc:
>
>Subject:  RE: Fusebox pros and cons
>
>
>   I think he meant Daves.
>   There is usually too much client involvement for a well written
>applications to exist.  It is the curse of being the service industry.
>
>At 04:24 PM 3/13/2002 -0600, you wrote:
> >What?  well written applications? Or Daves?
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Cary Gordon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 11:31 AM
> >To: CF-Talk
> >Subject: RE: Fusebox pros and cons
> >
> >
> >Based on his contributions to this list, I'd guess that there are about a
> >dozen...
> >
> >At 09:11 AM 3/12/2002 -0800, you wrote:
> >--- snip ---
> > >it is
> > >true that any well written CF Application should be logical and
>structured
> > >but there aren't that many Dave Watt's et al in the real CF World,  My
> > >sixpence worth.
> > >
> > >Mike Brunt
> > >Sempra Energy
> > >213.244.5226
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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