uh - excuse, I started this thread. I also just offered Michael hosting and
a dedicated machine in outr environment.

Tony Gruen

-----Original Message-----
From: Cantrell, Adam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:25 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE


I propose a 10% cut, payable to myself since I'm the one who got this thread
rolling after all :P

Michael, your list helps in many ways. You should have a new payment in your
pay pal account. Thanks again.

Adam.

ps. My initial post wasn't serious; just in case you had any doubts.



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lee Fuller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 11:15 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
>
>
> Ok.. Putting on my "board of directors" hat...
>
> So, if I read things properly, we're (at best) about 3700,
> and at worst
> (if you figure 1/2 are simply not active) 900.
>
> To be conservative, we're looking at 3/4 of the actual subscriber base
> (not NNTP) as "potential donors".  That makes it about 1400.
>
> After all is said and done, you'll need more than $5000, even with the
> wonderful generosity of some who are donating systems (thanks guys!!).
> I'm guessing more like $6500.
>
> Simple math says...
>
>               6500 / 1400 = $4.64 per subscriber.
>
> Reality is, that's a "perfect world" scenario.  But it also shows that
> it's not a huge issue to overcome.
>
> So, I will offer a challenge to all of whom are able to do so.  Donate
> $200 to the fund to build up this list.  If you cannot donate
> $200, then
> donate whatever you can.  However, if we cut the number above in 1/2,
> it's about $10 each.  If you cut it into 1/4, it's about $20.  So, I'm
> willing to pay for 40 of the 1400... Anyone else?
>
> Let's move this forward quickly, and support the
> person/entity that has
> tirelessly supported us.  He deserves it.
>
> Check's on the way Michael, payable to you.
>
>
> Lee Fuller
> Chief Technical Officer
> PrimeDNA / AAA Web Hosting Corporations
>
>
>
>
> | -----Original Message-----
> | From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> | Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:01 AM
> | To: CF-Talk
> | Subject: RE: [admin] List status
> |
> |
> | Sorry, Judith's sick in bed and I just got into work and
> | online. The list membership for CF-Talk has been down
> | reciently to 1856 members on list. If you add in the NNTP
> | readers, archive readers and all we'd have about double that.
> | This is the reason I want to provide better resources. To get
> | the information to more people through more channels.
> | My goal for the lists are to have them as lists with
> | immediate delivery, digests on the hour on up to once a day.
> | An archive that can be searched and posted from that will
> | include the proper threading (message id and reference id)
> | when a message is posed from them. An NNTP interface so that
> | a post can go from NNTP to the list and the archives in one
> | fell swoop. Finally, a web service interface so that other
> | devices can get the data.
> | This may sound like a lot of work but it's rather easy if
> | done in steps. The staggered digests and the archive are
> | done. Plugging a verity search into that is simple to do and
> | automating parts of it are one of my specialties (I think I
> | use the scheduler more than anyone else around). The posting
> | from the archives to the list is done on the back end and
> | just needs a nice front end for it. I wrote a new CF_MakeTree
> | that's tighter than hell to get the threading done right.
> | NNTP is something that I'm talking to someone about and they
> | can comment on it if they want. Web services is just a quick
> | CFC to the archives with no real front end.
> | Step by step it's being done and will get done.
> |
> | At 11:21 AM 5/15/02, you wrote:
> | >Still didn't hear...
> | >
> | >Michael,
> | >
> | >How many of us on this list?  And do you have any stats on
> | how many are
> | >"active"?
> | >
> | >
> | >
> |
>

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