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From: "Shawn Grover" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Do you give the user an option to keep the session open?  I can picture
in
my head a method or two to do this (requesting a simple, meaningless
page in
an IFrame or another window).  Or do you just tell the user their
session is
about to expire and leave it to them to do something about it?
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See my other post about the system I've built, but just wanted to point
out how traditional frames seem to work best for this system. I've
almost got a knee-jerk reaction against them, and know that IFRAMEs are
neater in so many ways.

Here's A List Apart's list of problems with frames, with my comments on
how this works for private, password-protected web apps:
(http://alistapart.com/stories/frames/)

- You cannot bookmark an individual page
Good! People should always enter the site through the login page.

- You cannot email a reference to a page
Good!

- You cannot link to a page
Good!

- Browsers can have problems with Back/Forward
I think this is just older browsers. Well, I only do CMS's for 5+
browsers...

- Framed sites are more difficult for text-based and speech browsers
As above, I limit entry to special CMS's anyway.

- Inexperienced designers can make all sorts of mistakes with frames
I *think* I'm OK on this one :-)

Plus, of course, search engines will have a hard time indexing the site.
Good! I have the ROBOTS NOINDEX meta tag in all the pages anyway.

Maybe I'm bashing this point home a bit too much, but I'm (1) curious to
see if there's any holes in my theory, and (2) quite amazed that I've
discovered after all these years a good use for frames!

- Gyrus

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