>>Wow, you can keep track of 200 issues? Most people can only keep
>>track of 7 according to psychological tests.
Just reread your post. I was going to say someone told me the human brain 
breaks down after 5 elements. so if you are building interfaces - if you 
have 5 things to look at people can handle and understand those 5 things at 
once. As soon as you start to get more - it just looks like a bunch of noise 
and retention and understanding is low.

my point? i dunno.

I personally use the human engineering bit. and it breaks down as soon as 
someone else starts developing with me on a project.

I have been looking for a simple, easy to implement source control manager. 
I just can't decide exactly what I want - AND find the system that does it 
for free. I'll keep looking.

To defend Mark's position - I think what he is saying is - if you work in a 
consistent and systematic manner that IS an effective method of source 
control. You don't need to track 200 things at once - because in the scope 
of performing a task you rarely multitask like that.

I mean what do you want in a source control system. Revision Management, 
File Locking / Revision Branching, Distribution builds? You guys are the 
pros - you tell me.

Revision Management is easy enough. Name the file with its version 
information. ie
index [1.001.001].cfm
File locking
index [eric][1.001.002].cfm
Branching
index [mark][1.001.002.2].cfm

Builds?
maybe a batch file? which creates a distribution build?
build_app.bat
copy index [1.001.001].cfm build_001/index.cfm
etc.

Just thinking aloud. meaning structured work flow - means controlled source. 
and I don't think fundamentally its any more complicated than that.

Eric

From: Dave Babbitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: This feature should never have been uploaded!" or Version 
Control Systems, Anyone?
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 12:49:10 -0400

If I took that psychological test, I would probably score 2 out of 7. Let's
just say that my manual implemented issue control mechanism increases that
by a factor of 50.

-----Original Message-----
From: Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2002 11:33 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: This feature should never have been uploaded!" or Version
Control Systems, Anyone?


Wow, you can keep track of 200 issues? Most people can only keep track of
7 according to psychological tests. Source control is the most basic part
of the development process and anyone who recommends "human engineering"
is someone to steer clear from.

On Thu, 20 Jun 2002, Dave Babbitt wrote:

 > I have been using the human engineering method of controlling code, but 
it
 > seems at about 200 Issues, my brain starts losing track of which issues
 > intersect at which template.
 >
 > -----Original Message-----
 > From: Mark Warrick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 > Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2002 6:03 PM
 > To: CF-Talk
 > Subject: RE: This feature should never have been uploaded!" or Version
 > Control Systems, Anyone?
 >
 >
 > Visual Source Safe?
 >
 > http://msdn.microsoft.com/ssafe/
 >
 > Personally I prefer the human engineering method of controlling code, but
if
 > you gotta have a computer keep track of what you do - well - there you 
go.
 >
 > ---mark
 >
 > ========================================================
 > Mark Warrick ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
 > Founder, Fusioneers.com / CTO, ZapConnect.com
 > Phone: 714-547-5386 / 714-667-0203 / Efax: 801-730-7289
 > http://www.warrick.net / http://www.fusioneers.com
 > http://www.zapconnect.com
 > ICQ: 125160 AIM: markwarric Yahoo: Serengeti
 > ========================================================
 >
 >
 > > -----Original Message-----
 > > From: Dave Babbitt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 > > Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2002 1:29 PM
 > > To: CF-Talk
 > > Subject: This feature should never have been uploaded!" or Version
 > > Control Systems, Anyone?
 > >
 > >
 > > Hi Guys!
 > >
 > > For some inexplicable reason, probably financial, my boss, the CTO,
 > > steadfastly refused to buy any version control system off the
 > > shelf and left
 > > me with the task of managing this manually. I didn't have control over
the
 > > development server, there was no staging server, etc.
 > >
 > > Now, the CTO is no longer my boss and the president has given me
 > > permission
 > > to buy something. But, what? It has to manage about 84,000 lines
 > > of code. It
 > > has to be able to revert to a previous version on the production 
server,
 > > etc.
 > >
 > > Any suggestions?
 > >
 > > Thanx
 > >
 > > Dave
 > >
 > >
 >
 >


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