I stayed at a Marriott down the street, and while obviously, it's not on
the same grounds ... They had DSL access...which is why I chose to stay
at the Marriot. I also had a suite that slept 6 for $99 a night. You
can't beat that. Yeah, you have to use a shuttle or rent a car to get
back and forth ... But I thought it was well worth it.

This year, I might try and try at the Swan and Dolphin ... But a suite
w/DSL versus a box with a bed ... It's a tough decision.

Erika
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>>| -----Original Message-----
>>| From: Vernon Viehe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
>>| Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 10:36 PM
>>| To: CF-Talk
>>| Subject: RE: DevCon 2002 info
>>| 
>>| 
>>| Here's the info pages on the Dolphin: 
>>| http://disneyworld.disney.go.com/waltdisneyworld/resorts/res
>>| ortindex?id=ORSDolphinRsrt
>>| 
>>| And the Swan: 
>>| http://disneyworld.disney.go.com/waltdisneyworld/resorts/res
>>| ortindex?id=ORSSwanRsrt
>>| 
>>| I called to ask specifically about this.
>>| 
>>| In the rooms, you're stuck with only telephone service - 
>>| old fashioned modem is all you can do from your room.
>>| 
>>| But, each hotel does have a business center with high-speed 
>>| internet access (didn't find out if there's a cost 
>>| associated with that though, sorry)
>>| 
>>| -Vern
>>| 
>>| > -----Original Message-----
>>| > From: Matthew Fusfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>| > Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 2:23 PM
>>| > To: CF-Talk
>>| > Subject: RE: DevCon 2002 info
>>| > 
>>| > 
>>| > I'm not sure about the Swan and Dolphin, but I believe there
>>| > is a business center at the Contemporary Hotel and there 
>>| > *may* be rooms there with network connections but I'm not 
>>| > really certain. You might also want to check Coronado Springs 
>>| > as I believe they also have business conferencing facilities, 
>>| > so it may be available there.
>>| > 
>>| > -Matt
>>| > 
>>| > -----Original Message-----
>>| > From: Mark W. Breneman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>| > Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 5:18 PM
>>| > To: CF-Talk
>>| > Subject: RE: DevCon 2002 info
>>| > 
>>| > 
>>| > Anyone know if there will be high speed access at the on 
>>| site hotel 
>>| > (swan/dolphin)?  Last year I had to sign up for a earth 
>>| link account 
>>| > and it still was a long distance number, just to do some work.
>>| > 
>>| > Mark W. Breneman
>>| > -Macromedia Certified ColdFusion 5 Developer
>>| > -Network / Web Server Administrator
>>| >   Vivid Media
>>| >   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>| >   www.vividmedia.com
>>| >   608.270.9770
>>| > 
>>| > -----Original Message-----
>>| > From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>| > Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 3:48 PM
>>| > To: CF-Talk
>>| > Subject: RE: DevCon 2002 info
>>| > 
>>| > 
>>| > Ditto to that Paul.  I took the whole family for 8 days of
>>| > fun (only 4 for
>>| > me though <g>).
>>| > 
>>| > -Mk
>>| > 
>>| > -----Original Message-----
>>| > From: Wille, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>| > Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 3:38 PM
>>| > To: CF-Talk
>>| > Subject: RE: DevCon 2002 info
>>| > 
>>| > 
>>| > > As per Macromedia's site
>>| > > (http://www.macromedia.com/v1/conference/):
>>| > > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
>>| > > Fees
>>| > > Prior to August 27, 2002 - $895
>>| > > After August 27, 2002 - $1,050
>>| > > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
>>| > >
>>| > > Is it just me? or is the cost to enter this conference 
>>| outrageous?
>>| > >
>>| > > How does macromedia expect freelancers and developers, 
>>| in this time 
>>| > > layoffs and reductions, to afford the cost of this conference?
>>| > 
>>| > Also, for the record, DevCon 2001 was a first class 
>>| event.  Macromedia 
>>| > shelled out a very nice conference (including a theme 
>>| park rented out 
>>| > specifically for conference attendees), live music, etc, 
>>| let alone a 
>>| > top notch conference.  I think the price is quite reasonable 
>>| > considering what attendees receive.
>>| > 
>>| > --Paul
>>| > 
>>| > Paul W. Wille           [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>| > ---------------------------------------------------
>>| > Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer
>>| > ---------------------------------------------------
>>| > ISITE Design, Inc. -- Solutions Architect
>>| > www.isitedesign.com
>>| > 615 SW Broadway, Suite 200
>>| > Portland, OR 97205
>>| > 503.221.9860 x110
>>| > 503.221.9865
>>| > 
>>| > 
>>| > 
>>| > -----Original Message-----
>>| > From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>| > Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 12:30 PM
>>| > To: CF-Talk
>>| > Subject: RE: DevCon 2002 info
>>| > 
>>| > 
>>| > 
>>| > It seems comparable to other conferences: 
>>| > https://register.ftpconferences.com/reg_or.asp
>>| > 
>>| > This kind of thing boils down to simple economics. 
>>| Macromedia is a 
>>| > for-profit entity, in theory. They have to be able to 
>>| support the cost 
>>| > of the conference, at a bare minimum. I'm sure they'd like it to 
>>| > actually be profitable.
>>| > 
>>| > Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
>>| > http://www.figleaf.com/
>>| > voice: (202) 797-5496
>>| > fax: (202) 797-5444
>>| > 
>>| > 
>>| > 
>>| > 
>>| > 
>>| 
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