"I am/was just letting off some steam.."

I actually think it's healthy that ppl aren't afraid to constructively
critisize some product - less "us and them" (Microsoft arrogance),
more fuel for improvements, work arounds, etc.

I remember when Spike was having a hell of a time with CF's XML
implemementation
(http://www.spike.org.uk/blog/index.cfm?do=blog.entry&entry=B495C724-D565-E33F-3A31D0EE819F1050),

a place I used to work at dumped Verity in favour of Lucerne thanx to
a CF7 (K2 really) issue, and in a similar manner, replaced
cfdocument/cfreport with using the latest iText (Java) libraries.

I could throw in lines about emperors and (missing) clothes and
squeeky wheels getting the lube, etc...but you get the drift.



On 7/6/06, Joel Cass <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Just ignore my post.
>
> I had a lot of difficulties with getting a perfectly good web service
> working because of the inner workings of CF and its AXIS service. In the end
> I had to modify countless config files and shuffle through the Java
> subsystem to correct a configuration issue.
>
> No actually I don't love standards that much but it would be good to use a
> system that was actually developed to consume and provide web services.. Not
> just interact with some open source app.
>
> I know there are limitations with web services in general but it would be
> good to have a platform that can actually serve them out in a predictable
> way. At least in .net you would know that date/time is an issue and your web
> service will still work after you restart the web server (please don't make
> me explain or this message will be 3 pages long)..
>
> I am/was just letting off some steam..
>
> Joel
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Behalf Of Barry Beattie
> Sent: Thursday, 6 July 2006 10:11 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [cfaussie] Re: OT: - .NET sucking the life out of me
>
>
>
> "if it promises smoother and more standardised web service development."
>
> Joel (and apologies to Jeremy for drifting further OT)...
>
> I realise you're talking about server issues with erbservices (not
> consuming them) but MS isn't without their webservice grief. it comes
> down to MS thinking they know best when it comes to standards.
>
> (don't you just  love standards? there's so many to choose from!)
>
> here's just one example from the Flexcoders list:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg30801.html
>
> but I'm sure others can chime in with having been caught out with
> "nuiances" using .NET based webservices...
>
>
>
> On 7/6/06, Joel Cass <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > After all the issues I have had getting just one web service going on the
> > new server I would gladly move over to .Net in a flash if it promises
> > smoother and more standardised web service development.
> >
> > Adobe can shove their open source AXIS where the sun dont shine as far as
> I
> > care
> >
> > Joel
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Behalf
> > Of Shane Farmer
> > Sent: Wednesday, 5 July 2006 8:40 PM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: [cfaussie] Re: OT: - .NET sucking the life out of me
> >
> >
> > You are absolutely right, Charlie. It would have been early last year they
> > started thinking about the move. BD.net would have only made the change
> less
> > rushed as all code would eventually have been asp.net. As far as I know,
> > this never eventuated and the company is still running CFMX.
> >
> > Shane
> >
> >
> > On 7/5/06, Charlie Arehart < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Shane, that must have been over a year ago that you found BD.NET to be
> in
> > beta. It has long been in production use by many companies now, not the
> > least of which is Myspace, which many know was a CF5 site that was gasping
> > until they decided to move to .NET and found BD.NET a great way to make
> the
> > move while preserving their CFML investment--all with getting a bug bounce
> > in performance. There are some who accuse it of being slower, but I know
> > from the folks at Myspace (who watch their servers very closely and
> > professionally) that there has indeed been considerable improvement. So
> much
> > so, in fact, that MS has made "great hay" of saying that it's running on
> > .NET--without mentioning that it's CFML on .NET by way of BlueDragon.
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >  >
> >
> >
>
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> >
>

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