depends on the audience, depends on the level of agitation and above all depends on who's doing it ;)
On 8/20/06, darryl lyons
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Why not just use MXNA's idea -- have two ColdFusion fees. There is a
regular, "static" ColdFusion feed, and theres a "we think these are
ColdFusion posts" ColdFusion feed (Robin's idea). That way you can
allow people to choose.
On 19/08/06, Scott Barnes < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This whole thread cracks me up, as I've been sitting on this idea since
> first reading it and I wanted to wait and see if anyone else had something
> similiar or close to it. I think it was Mark who came closest.
>
> Ok, some agree that the "AS-IS" model for the F-Goog works kinda ok? (I for
> one find the "leave it be" approach to be suffice for my RSS digestion) -
> Yet - others want a more focused approach, like Dale - "If i ask for
> Coldfusion, serve it too me".
>
> Now Robin has indicated that there is a multitude of ways in which we could
> technically make all this happen, latest being the Bayesian algorithms -
> which does sound quite interesting.
>
> So here's the thing... Geoff makes a change as per Robins posts, what
> happens? - I dare say, he could quite easily alienate a large portion of the
> F-Goog population in one hit. He could ignore it? but now that Dale's come
> out and stated that he finds it off-topic too much ( my blog is guilty at
> times ) others may flock to his banner and agree - more negatives.
>
> So Geoff will now need to choose the lesser of both evils? or he could
> simply steal a page or two out of Digg.com.
>
> Why not simply allow folks to click on a feature under each thread in the
> "free-for-all" category that allows the community, the very people who focus
> their attention on F-Goog to promote certain feeds into certain categories
> of global choice. This will allow the wider population of F-Goog to
> determine what is context and what is noise.
>
> Sometimes, the power of the end-user is enough. Never forget your consumers
> as they are your eyes, ears, voice and mind :)
>
>
>
>
> On 8/18/06, Robin Hilliard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
>
> On 18/08/2006, at 8:31 AM, Geoff Bowers wrote:
>
> > 2) its not computationally trivial to work out what is a good and not
> > so good post
>
> Just FYI Chip Temm has an interesting comment on our blog about using
> Bayesian algorithms (often used in spam filters) to automatically
> categorise content - here is a link to the article he wrote in CFDJ
> about this a while back:
>
> http://au.sys-con.com/read/154232.htm
>
> To make this work we need a large sample of posts in various
> categories. To this end I wrote a CF script this evening that
> visited the 468 feeds aggregated by the Goog and built a distinct
> list of dc:subject tag values on the feed items (see my blog comment
> for the list).
>
> I figure that if we can map the various subjects used on these blogs
> for CF, Flash, Flex etc (there typically seem to be about 4-8
> variations for each product) to products we should be able to visit
> the original articles, and assign each to the correct sample (CF,
> Flash, Trash etc) based on the subjects allocated by the author at
> post time. With this data (basically a word frequency table) we
> should be able to look at any article or web page and with some
> modest number crunching get a pretty good indication of how relevant
> it would be to a particular product. It will be fun to see if it
> works anyway...
>
> ______________
>
> Robin Hilliard
>
>
> On 18/08/2006, at 8:31 AM, Geoff Bowers wrote:
>
> >
> > Dale et al,
> >
> > Dale Fraser wrote:
> >> I recently dropped all my favourite feeds in Google and put in
> >> Fullasagoog
> >> Coldfusion Blend instead.
> >>
> >> Wow, am I disappointed. I'm not sure what's going on, but I'm
> >> wasting my
> >> time here. I think someone at Fullasagoog should do something
> >> about it.
> >> Here's the current top 9 Coldfusion Blend Entries
> >
> > First thing to say is generally I agree. I'm not a great fan of "off
> > topic" posts myself but they clearly don't annoy me as much as they
> > annoy some.
> >
> > There needs to be a bit of a reality check:
> > 1) anecdotally -- about an equal proportion of people *want* to see
> > non-technical posts from CF insiders. They feel it humanises the
> > community and so on.
> > 2) its not computationally trivial to work out what is a good and not
> > so good post
> > 3) not everyone has a category that is relevant -- if i only take CF
> > posts from a blogger do I miss the posts they might have on JS, Flash,
> > Flex, SQL etc? Many bloggers have many technical interests. CF
> > itself
> > has many satellite subjects that should be of interest to CF
> > developers.
> >
> > I have plans for the next generation Goog to provide some degree of
> > social interaction to widen the scope for users to be editors and hone
> > the relevance of posts. I also have a variety of ideas on how to do
> > this computationally.
> >
> > There are some 500 hand picked blogs on Fullasagoog. And a waiting
> > list of about half that. I review each blog before adding it. I even
> > remove some blogs I find to be reliably bad. This is a very
> > subjective
> > and time consuming process. Bloggers tools change, their posting
> > habits change, there are a multitude of human variables associated
> > with
> > maintaining a good feed.
> >
> > I will endeavour to find more time to address the concerns you have
> > raised. But in the end, Fullasagoog is not cash flow positive and is
> > heavily subsidised by Daemon [1]. It's a bit of a hobby that was
> > built
> > to scatch an itch of *mine* several years ago and at the moment I've
> > got some sort of St. Vitus dance going on trying to reach all the
> > other
> > itches.
> >
> > -- geoff
> > http://www.fullasagoog.com/
> >
> > [1]: http://www.daemon.com.au/
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Regards,
> Scott Barnes
> http://www.mossyblog.com
> >
>
>
--
Darryl
http://www.acheron.org/darryl/
--
Regards,
Scott Barnes
http://www.mossyblog.com
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