thanx Charlie, I did see the post but too late. I will definately give it a whirl when I reach a hiatus in my work later today.
I read some pearls of wisdom somewhere tho, that may also apply to, ahem, ColdFusion IDE's. "As a commercial product, you can also take consolation that it will indeed work as advertised and if it doesn't that there will be a company behind it to help support, improve, and evangelize it." couldn't have said it better me'self. Joel: Railo, yes but surprised how far they've got since I last looked and astounded by the existance of others.... On 9/14/06, Charlie Arehart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I don't want to sound like a broken record, but since it's unclear if Barry > has seen or will see the note I'd sent an hour or so before his, I'll say > again that there is indeed interactive step debugging for CFML now, in > FusionDebug, albeit it's not from Adobe and it's not for free (though it is > based on Eclipse). The question of whether Adobe should provide such instead > is a whole other discussion, of course, some of which you've addressed below > and your later note. Just want to make sure that those calling for debugging > know that it is indeed now available. > > /charlie > http://www.carehart.org/blog/ > > -----Original Message----- > From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of Barry Beattie > Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 6:39 PM > To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com > Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Why buy into CF? > > > to tie these comments back to the thread title, I really hope that this is > more than some lame thread-watching tool. > > I'm continually impressed with VisualStudio.NET's debugging. > breakpoints, line-by-line code execution, watching variables - anywhere in > the code - even being able to drill down thru complex datasets or > child-of-child-of-child objects. > > and before ppl say that ASP.NET and CF work differently, they're actually a > lot similar than you'd expect. Ya gotta admit - for all their faults and > failings, Microsoft makes damn decent developer tools. For years SQLServer's > Enterprise Mgr/QueryAnalyser was *the* standard set. the db tools in VS.NET > are even better (for coders, not necesarily DBA's) > > Where's the ColdFusion IDE that does that? I sure hope it's comming with > either CF8 or Studio9 (or whatever Flash+Dreamwaever will be bundled with). > I appreciate CFEclipse and Mark and Rob's efforts but I want more. > > Sure, you can get close by adding other plug-ins to Eclipse (QuantumDB, etc) > but both in key areas (eg debugging) and refinements, there's still lots of > catch-up (I admit source control is an area VS.NET loses on but unlike > debugging, that can be worked around). > > And why the heck is it left to a bunch of hard-working open-source > developers to create an IDE for a commercial prodct? What's the parent > company doing - sitting on it's hands? Macromedia, Adobe - both companies > that make a living creating IDE's... wot? they don't know how to do it? The > official IDE is *still* Homesite. > > It seems it comes down CF market share. Return on investment. But what about > belief in one's stable of products and provide the tools to use them? does > that have value? > > If there is a new CF IDE comming out from Adobe soon, I just hope it's the > bees-knees. With exellent in-editor debugging. > > I expect nothing less. It is, after all, the standard the competition is at. > I wait with abated breath... > > > > > On 9/13/06, Shane Farmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > On 9/13/06, M@ Bourke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > he wouldn't elaborate to much on it but it seemed to be pretty much > > > that, > > he did also mention you'll be able to see/monitor all threads running > > and kill them etc, as well as open up cf more and see what exactly is > > happening under the hood and what you'll be able to tell from it > > > > > > > > Java 5 lets you do this (JConsole). We have to do this with Tomcat > > some times... it seems once you give Tomcat some memory, it really > > doesn't like giving it back until you make it! This could point us in > > the direction of future releases of CF running on Java 5 or maybe even > > Java 6 (which should be released soon). > > > > Leads into another interesting idea of attaching a Java debugger to > > the VM, but unless it is done like JSP is, you wont be able to step > > through the CF code (I know WebMacro can't be done like that). Maybe > > that is one direction that could be explored... its late and I really have > to stop day dreaming. > > It probably has been explored and found to not be feasable > > > > > > Shane > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
