Thanks heaps Adam. Cleared it up perfectly.

On 12/7/06, Adam Cameron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> You're just confused, although this is not helped by me typing faster
> than I was thinking, in my descriptions of the bit-usage of UTF-8, etc
> (sorry, I'm @ work so was only paying 50% attention to what I was
> typing).  Better not to rely on me in this case, but to read this lot:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unicode_Transformation_Format
>
> Anyway, to answer your question:
>
> If you use "bytes" and specify varchar2(2000), you'll get 2000 bytes of
> storage space for each row in that column.  That's obvious.
>
> If you use "chars" and specify varchar2(2000), you'll get 2000x
> [whatever the size of the char could be, for the given encoding you're
> using for that column].  If it's a 4-byte character encoding, the
> varchar2(2000) will be 8000 BYTES long (4x2000).
>
> So if you use chars and say "2000, pls": you can definitely fit 2000
> characters in there.  If you specify 2000 bytes... you'll be able to
> fit 2000 bytes worth of characters, which given a UTF-8 character can
> be 1-4 bytes each, will quite possibly be fewer than 2000 chars.
>
> Basically the "byte semantics" comes from back in the day when we only
> ever thought about english-language characters, which fitted nicely
> into 7 bits, so one byte = one char worked nicely.  Now that we deal
> with all sorts of different alphabets, the space needed to store a
> character also varies, so trying to use a byte as a character unit
> doesn't make sense, hence the character-based "semantics".
>
> I'd be more inclined to use "characters" than "bytes".
>
> --
> Adam
>
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> Adam
>
>
> >
>


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