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On 2/26/07, Mark Stanton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Interoperability - The ability of two or more systems, or components
> > to exchange information, and to use the information that has been
> > exchanged
>
> Good to see someone over there knows what the word means...
>
> (Why oh why am I getting drawn into this tragedy/comedy.)
>
> On 2/23/07, Scott Barnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Well said Charlie :)
> >
> > Just going out on a limb here, but ol Adobe must of had a reason to
> > make Coldfusion 8 interop with .NET.
> >
> > Interoperability - The ability of two or more systems, or components
> > to exchange information, and to use the information that has been
> > exchanged
> >
> > Did you know JJ Allaire works for MSFT - does that mean he has to hand
> > in his Coldfusion badge too?
> >
> >
> >
> > On 2/23/07, Charlie Arehart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hey, wait, why am I being pulled into this? :-)
> > >
> > > While I did record videos on that topic for MS while I was with New 
> > > Atlanta,
> > > I am not involved in this upcoming webcast Scott has mentioned. I imagine
> > > someone from New Atlanta may be repeating what I did before, of course.
> > >
> > > And FWIW, I will note that it's about how to integrate CFML and .NET. It's
> > > not at all about how to "move off CFML to .NET". I'll admit that the crux 
> > > of
> > > that campaign is of that sort. When I was first asked to do it (almost a
> > > year ago exactly), I was a little put off by the "how to move off"
> > > JSP/PHP/CFM nature of the campaign. Fortunately, I was able to offer the
> > > talk I did which was much LESS about leaving and just about making the 
> > > most
> > > of the two together. It was kind of a stealth move, I felt.
> > >
> > > I can't see the new webcasts being any different, so that's at least some
> > > consolation to those who see any connection as "fraternizing with the
> > > enemy". That said, .NET is a platform. Just as CFMX (and BlueDragon 
> > > Server,
> > > and Railo) is built atop Java, BD.NET is built atop .NET. One need not
> > > "leave CFML" to get the benefits of that platform.
> > >
> > > But I'll leave it at that. I'm not trying to "sell" anything either. I 
> > > have
> > > no vested interest in the topic other than to share it as a technical
> > > opportunity for those who could benefit. Indeed, it's why I joined the
> > > company 4 years ago in April (when I had been shown an early alpha of
> > > BD.NET, and after watching BD and its predecessor TagServlet for a couple
> > > years before that).
> > >
> > > But then you see also one of the reasons I chose to move on from the role
> > > and become independent again! :-) Frankly I got tired of the bickering 
> > > that
> > > often arose over any attempts to show this alternative. I knew it was a
> > > compelling alternative for those who had the problems it solved, and I 
> > > could
> > > very successfully demonstrate it to those who gave it serious 
> > > consideration.
> > > And indeed, BD and New Atlanta do continue evolving the product since I 
> > > left
> > > in April, and are about to announce BD 7. With Railo also offering CF7
> > > functionality in a new beta, and the Smith project coming along, there are
> > > clearly plenty of demonstrations of the strength of CFML in the market.
> > >
> > > And now with CF8 coming out with really great new features, it really is a
> > > great time to be in CFML. I for one am very happy to be free to look into
> > > any and all possibilities. As always, I'm just looking for solutions to
> > > problems for my clients, regardless of who can provide them. And that goes
> > > for .NET, too. :-) It's not a zero-sum game, folks. There's a place for
> > > everyone and everything. Just pick what solves your problems, but be open
> > > always to alternatives. That may be all Scott means also.
> > >
> > > But trust me--I understand the sensitivity of bringing up .NET in a CF 
> > > list.
> > > It's like yelling fire in a crowded movie theater. It doesn't matter that
> > > there is no fire. It's just about being sensitive to the way crowds 
> > > respond.
> > > :-)
> > >
> > > And I should add that my talk and preconference seminar at WebDU will 
> > > apply
> > > 100% to CFMX users! :-)
> > >
> > > /Charlie
> > > http://www.carehart.org/blog/
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> > > Of Robin Hilliard
> > > Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 8:42 PM
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Subject: [cfaussie] Re: CF and .NET (Followup).
> > >
> > >
> > > On 23/02/2007, at 12:10 PM, Scott Barnes wrote:
> > > > Now if we/you want to play the whole MSFT is "Selling" card again, go
> > > > for it, but count me out this time ;)
> > >
> > > Hm, perhaps it's the "learn2asp.net" and "Campaign" in the url that
> > > suggested to some people that this was a "selling" kinda thing...
> > >
> > > Might I suggest "http://billsdevlounge.org/ charliesexcellentbdstuff.cfm"?
> > > :-)
> > >
> > > Robin
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Regards,
> > Scott Barnes
> > http://www.mossyblog.com
> >
> > >
> >
>
>
> --
> Mark Stanton
> Gruden Pty Ltd
> http://www.gruden.com
>
> >
>


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Regards,
Scott Barnes
http://www.mossyblog.com

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