Dmitry,

I think we're good for April (and I think May as well).  I'll contact you
off list - we may be looking at June.  I know I'm interested in OpenID

Mark

On 3/16/07, Dmitry Yakhnov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  Hi ppl,
>
>
>
> I am both hands up for monthly CFUG meetings and even can do presentation
> on OpenID next time.
>
>
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
>
>
> *Dmitry Yakhnov*
>
> Technical Director
>
>
>
> Yakhnov Studio
>
> http://www.yakhnov.info/
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>
> *From:* cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On
> Behalf Of *Mark Mandel
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 15, 2007 11:29 AM
> *To:* cfaussie@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* [cfaussie] Re: OT: Melbourne CFUG
>
>
>
> All,
>
> I just got off the phone with Steve, we had a good chat, and things aren't
> nearly as heated as they seem to be in email.
>
> Basically we've decided that we will share the load of running and
> organising the CFUG meetings between the two of us, and whoever else wants
> to help share in the responsibility.
>
> (Dale - willing to put your money where you mouth is and help organise
> presentations? :oD )
>
> This may well be a relatively free form situation where there may be a
> roster to organise a presentation for the coming month(s), but I think it
> will end up being pooled into a combined effort.
>
> Steve and I both agree that there should be a return to monthly meetings
> with presentations - but there is often difficulty in organising people for
> every single month.  I think that between a group of us, this should mean
> there will be a variety of presentations on a variety of interesting topics.
>
>
> Steve and I discussed doing the next meeting post WebDU, so keep your ears
> to the ground for that.
>
> But on that note -
>
> *If *anyone* is willing to step and up and help organise presentations,
> please contact either me, or Steve, and we will coordinate our efforts
> together. *
>
> *Also if anyone is willing to do presentations on pretty much ANYTHING
> (high level, low level, CF related, Database related, Case Study, whatever),
> please contact me, or Steve, and let us know.  *
>
> This is the time to really get things happening people, but we really do
> need your help.
>
> Regards,
>
> Mark
>
> On 3/15/07, *Dale Fraser *<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Steve,
>
>
>
> I really hope that you're not upset, the tone of that suggests otherwise.
> I really hope that you still come and contribute to the meeting and I'm sure
> that all the regulars do also.
>
>
>
> I agree with marks Monthly meetings and discussion type sessions,
> hopefully we will get good attendance and build the group.
>
>
>
> PS: To all the slackers at my work who never attend, I want to see you
> there this year. You know who you are. I've also worked with lots of good
> people in the past who I know silently read this list and never comment,
> it's time to join in, you will learn some good stuff and meet some good
> people.
>
>
>
> Regards
>
> Dale Fraser
>
>
>
> http://dale.fraser.id.au/blog
>
>
>   ------------------------------
>
> *From:* cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On
> Behalf Of *Steve Onnis
> *Sent:* Thursday, 15 March 2007 10:40 AM
> *To:* cfaussie@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* [cfaussie] Re: OT: Melbourne CFUG
>
>
>
> Its all yours Mark
>
>
>
> Good luck with it all
>
>
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>
> *From:* cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On
> Behalf Of *Mark Mandel
> *Sent:* Thursday, 15 March 2007 10:35 AM
>
>
> *To:* cfaussie@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* [cfaussie] Re: OT: Melbourne CFUG
>
> All,
>
> First off, non of this should put down any of the hard work that Steve has
> put into the Vic CFUG, He's done an excellent job over the past few years.
>
> But, Just to be clear on my position here, since people seem to enjoy
> talking on my behalf -
>
>    - I'm more than happy to be nominated for the Role of CFUG user
>    manager, If, and only If Steve wants to step down
>    - I would honestly like to see a return to monthly meetings where
>    there is a presentation each month.  I know this is a lot of work, but I
>    have several ideas:
>
>
>     - Case Studies - people can present work they have done, and
>       discuss what went well, and what went bad about it
>       - 'Try a Framework' evening. Everyone gets together with their
>       laptops and we all get a framework up and running and try out various 
> things
>       in a collaborative environement
>       - CF Certification Study groups
>       - Presentation on technologies (i.e. like what we have now)
>       - Multi-session free training on CF (even beginner stuff)
>
>
>    - NGA.net is still available as a venue (tho we have started filling
>    up the space we used last time, but I think we can find somewhere to do 
> it),
>    as long as people still like South Melbourne as a venue.
>
> I think that last year showed that there were plenty of people in the
> group that were more than willing to share their time and their efforts in
> doing multiple presentations, and they were great (big kudos to Bjorn for
> his Flex presos).  We should be able to capitalise on that and really get
> some momentum going.  I have to admit, it does seem a little stop-start.
>
> But at the end of the day, that is simply my *opinion*, Steve puts in a
> lot of work into the CFUG, and much thanks to him for the work he does, but
> I figured I would clarify my position, so that it doesn't get muddied.
>
> Mark
>
> On 3/15/07, *Steve Onnis* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> For your information I am in the process or talking with the Microsoft guy
> about doing some presentations for us and organising other presentations as
> there is no point having meetings without presentations.
>
>
>
> Last year I put it out there to have a meeting just to get everyone
> together to keep them going and no one wanted to come along.  So it is more
> of a realisation that unless there are presenters no one will come.
>
>
>
> For me its less about presentations and more about the networking aspect.
> Presentations are a bonus, especially when there are new people wanting to
> join the group.  It seems that the remaining people that come to the
> meetings are somewhat advanced which I feel is deterring newcomers which is
> why I want to pull the meetings back and have more general stuff, which is
> why I am talking to the Microsoft group and other groups.  Stuff like a
> presentation on Vista and SQL2005 and stuff like that which are more
> information based rather than having technical topics like the FLEX ones,
> which even made my brain hurt.
>
>
>
> For those who say "I'll only come if I like the topic" well that's not
> being part of the group really in my view.  You come because you want to be
> part of the group, not because there is a personal gain for you each and
> every meeting.
>
>
>
> So my drive this year is new members, not existing members.  The existing
> members by the sounds of it based on the feedback already know the
> importance of the group and should be attending regardless of topics.  The
> important thing is growing the group again and getting new members and
> pulling back in the old members who haven't attended for a while, in both
> cfug and mmug.
>
>
>
> Rest assured I am working on things, but it just doesn't happen by
> clicking your fingers, but if you all would like Mark to take it over I'll
> leave that up to him.  I know I have offered for him to take more of a part
> in the running of the group but he didn't really have the time.
>
>
>
> Steve
>
>
>  ------------------------------
>
> *From:* cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On
> Behalf Of *Dale Fraser
> *Sent:* Thursday, 15 March 2007 8:54 AM
> *To:* cfaussie@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* [cfaussie] Re: OT: Melbourne CFUG
>
> Ok,
>
>
>
> I am interested in attending, I'm sorry to say it, but I think Steve is
> not running this effectively and is doing more harm good, while he is a hell
> of a nice guy and has been doing all the work, it took 6 months last year
> for the first meeting to be organized and we are 3 � months into this year
> with no news. I think there were only 4 or 5 last year in total, I attended
> them all they need to me more regular.
>
>
>
> Now I've mentioned this previously and then a meeting gets organized, but
> I think that's not good enough any more and it's time to hand it over to
> someone.
>
>
>
> And rather than beat around the bush we need to organize this. As the kind
> folk at NGA have offered their offices, I think it makes sense that someone
> from there run it.
>
>
>
> I would like to nominate Mark Mandel to run the usergroup, he also
> attended every meeting last year and I know that he is both prepared to run
> it and would do a good job. But before this can happen, Steve really needs
> to step aside and then anyone else interested could step up also and we can
> vote if necessary on a new UG Manager. I think Mark also needs to publicly
> step forward and indicate if he would indeed accept the position if offered.
>
>
>
>
> Once again I would like to mention that I have respect for Steve and we
> all appreciate his efforts over the years, but believe strongly that the
> time has come for a change.
>
>
>
> Regards
>
> Dale Fraser
>
>
>
> http://dale.fraser.id.au/blog
>
>
>   ------------------------------
>
> *From:* cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On
> Behalf Of *Lucas
> *Sent:* Thursday, 15 March 2007 8:25 AM
> *To:* cfaussie@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* [cfaussie] OT: Melbourne CFUG
>
>
>
> Hey Folks,
> i know that there has been a lot of offtopic chatter this week, so in an
> effort to drag it back on topic, I would love to hear from anyone who is
> interested in meeting for a Melbourne CFUG.
>
> Now I know that there are people that have run this group in the past but
> it seems to have dried up so I am just really waving a big stick trying to
> work out if there is interest or if it is really dead and there is no CF in
> Melbourne. We kinda have a venue that we could use to run a meeting (it will
> cost us but don't let that put you off just yet) but before we go too far, i
> don't want to tread on toes...
>
> I would love to meet up and chat, shoot the breeze or even talk CF with
> folks. I will be at WebDU if you are interested i reviving the CFUG in
> Melbourne
>
> ok, that is it for now...
> I am going to go and program now, on an non-adobe operating system, on a
> computer not built by adobe, in a tool not built by adobe, in a language
> that is not CF - so I am really going to go to hell (sorry scott)
>
> --
>
> Lucas
>
> http://www.thebitbucket.net
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