But Scott,
If your like me you never install into the Programs directory, like Dale
just did so how does that protect me?
On 4/12/07, Scott Barnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Q. Do people think that UAC exists just because an engineer in the back
> room decided "it'd be funny to put it in to tick everyone off". XP had
> security issues, so MS folks fixed these by putting in more security
> measures into place.
>
> So, you don't have to use UAC yet you chose to? You move programs out of
> the program files directory because you need to get around the Security? Yet
> how does one get access to the registry where this informations is located
> in which you stored this application in outside the "progam files directory
> firewall thingy" when you yourself couldn't bypass it to install it?
>
> See where I'm going. Program Files are for the next, next, next, Finish
> wizard users. It protects them from that darn spyware crap we all hated
> inside XP. You've changed the playing field tonight Dale, as you've gone
> "uhuh!, i'll move it outside of the default zone and hide it somewhere
> else".
>
> Protection is a funny thing :) We at times look at the Police whom pull us
> over for speeding or whatever it may be and we go "I wish you'd go away!"
> yet the moment we need them "I wish you were here".
>
> Same logic applies with UAC.
>
> You've come to the sad realisation that UAC may actually save you one day
> {ACCEPT or DENY}.
>
>
>
> On 4/12/07, Dale Fraser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Scott,
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks for the offer, but we have a simple solution, although it's quite
> > dumb and makes me wonder why MS introduced this change.
> >
> >
> >
> > If we install our application to C:\ABC\ rather than C:\Program
> > Files\ABC
> >
> >
> >
> > Then we have no problems, data under ABC works, all users have access
> > etc, etc. Makes me think others will take this simple fix and defeat the
> > purpose of having a Program Files directory.
> >
> >
> >
> > The more complicated solutions that exist for Vista would not work on XP
> > easily, this is an easy solution where one build of our software will work
> > on both XP & Vista.
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards
> > Dale Fraser
> >
> >
> >
> > http://dale.fraser.id.au/blog/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On
> > Behalf Of *Scott Barnes
> > *Sent:* Thursday, 12 April 2007 9:51 PM
> > *To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > *Subject:* [cfaussie] Re: OT: Vista Application
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Dale,
> >
> >
> >
> > Are you running the in question application as Administrator? In that
> > the usual right-click run as approach (or in the services console, ensure
> > System Administrator is being run).
> >
> >
> >
> > As although you as user have Administrator rights, you still need to
> > force UAC to run it as Administrator anyway. Sounds like the application is
> > having resolution problems around UAC.
> >
> >
> >
> > If you want to take this offline, I can work you through it or if I
> > can't find the answer, I can grab some abled bodied MS Propella heads to
> > help out in the platform space.
> >
> >
> >
> > -
> >
> > Scott Barnes
> >
> > Dale Evangelist
> >
> > Microsoft.
> >
> >
> >
> > On 4/11/07, *Dale Fraser* < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > This is off topic, but we develop a client server application, C++
> > client and CF server.
> >
> >
> >
> > Our program logs events and writes logs to disk and is having great
> > problems under vista, something to do with Virtualization. Which as I
> > understand it is something along the line of it sees our program writing
> > files into a directory under the program files\program name\data\
> >
> >
> >
> > And says, you shouldn't do that I'll put it somewhere else (virtually)
> > and everything kind of goes hay wire from there.
> >
> >
> >
> > What we really want is to have our installer give the application
> > permission to run and store data in this directory with read and write
> > access for all users.
> >
> >
> >
> > I've done a lot of searching, but hoping someone out there may have gone
> > through this already and point us in the right direction.
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Dale Fraser
> >
> >
> >
> > http://dale.fraser.id.au/blog
> >
> >
> >
> > <br
> >
> > > >
> >
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