For some it's a personal preference to go physical, but for arguments sake....
Virtual servers, meaning VMWare not Microsoft Virtual Server, allow you to move a production system to new (gruntier) hardware when and if required without a rebuild. They also mean you can migrate away from 3 year old hardware without rebuilding the hosting platform. Implemented correctly you can even get the Virtual Servers to spread their load over a pool of physical servers so that you maximise the usage of RAM and CPU capacity available, therefore maximising the return on investment. Bottom line is that Virtual Server platforms properly implemented will save management time, save migration hassles and improve uptime for services. ----------------------------------------- Bruce Trevarthen, CEO ZeroOne (NZ) Limited --- DDI: +64 4 4714444 Mobile: +64 21 567967 ------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Onnis Sent: Friday, 29 June 2007 1:30 p.m. To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion Survey Andrew I personally don't run virtual servers. I haven't gotten to a stage where I have needed that sort of thing, and even if I did I would be more likely to purchase more servers then use virtual servers. I know it's a cost factor and it needs to be planned as part of your growth. Although what you mentioned does happen from time to time, I am on the servers all day every day pretty much and I see when something goes funny, and if I don't see it, my clients are quick to jump. If you do have mission critical application that require to be up 100% of the time then you would be better of getting your own server so you don't have to worry about those sorts of issues. To be setting up a CF instance per hosting client on a single serer would be an administrative nightmare. On that though, keep in mind that its not always a CF server issue. People running dodgy SQL queries can bring the sql server to a halt. Heavy file system access can spike the CPU and slow things down. Both of which can be totally non-cf related. I would, however move you to a different server if you went happy with the one you were on. That just comes down to customer service. Also, if the cf server was not set up to be running jrun so you could have multiple instances, then you would either have to install it again using the jrun method and have both running in tandem, or uninstall the current install and go again, just so you could have your own instance. I would have said no also, but not laughed at you :) We have just had an infrastructure upgrade with some new equipment and stuff. Currently I have a server doing nothing because its waiting for CF8 to be released. As for cost, I am surprised how much the prices of upgrades has come down. From memory, upgrades are like half the price they used to be. I remember having to pay close to 8k for an initial CFENT license, and still have to pay 6k for the upgrade. Not the case now. Steve -----Original Message----- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Scott Sent: Friday, 29 June 2007 11:12 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion Survey Steve, I will chime in here, and Mike Kear and anyone else that is running a hosting business. First let me say this, it is easier for you guys to plan the said cost of CF into your decision. But I am not going to discuss that. One thing that has puzzled me a little, and this comes from a discussion I had with a hosting company for one of our clients. Which I am so not happy with. When you planned your infrastructure, did you go with Virtual Servers and if so how many instances did you guys end up setting up? The reason I ask is that this hosting company, is running one server and one instance of CF and every now and then some stupid website brings the entire CF server to a halt. When I asked about setting up another instance, and maybe moving the more robust apps over for more stability I was laughed at. I guess what I am asking, is how do you decide how many websites you run of one CF instance? Andrew Scott Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 -----Original Message----- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Onnis Sent: Friday, 29 June 2007 10:59 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion Survey I run a hosting business and I work on the volume principal (I hope I spelt it the right way). Get enough clients to cover the cost and hopefully make some op top on it. You need to look at recouping the cost long term because you will never get it back over night (and no im not gonna say it...) All cones down to a business decision, and if your prepared for the initial outlay. 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