AOP will helps in some cases, but not all. I can labour the point with
examples if you want.

besides, if nested transactions was a waste of time, why is it in Java & .NET?




On Nov 23, 2007 12:00 PM, Haikal Saadh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> So, really, what you want are not really nested transactions in the
> database sense, but more in the AOP sense;
>
> Apparently ColdSpring supports AOP. Maybe you should have a play with that?
>
>
> Barry Beattie wrote:
> > this is starting to get off-topic from CFCAMP, but since I want the feature:
> >
> > http://groups.google.com/group/cfcdev/browse_thread/thread/f007d0a54e8a8bbf?hl=en#6d9d1b448182c79e
> > http://groups.google.com/group/cfcdev/browse_thread/thread/ac9bc51cf21f982a?hl=en#dc859d7e04025d7a
> >
> >
> > 1) nested transactions are built into decent databases like SQLServer
> > 2) nested transactions  and partial roll-backs are built into both
> > Java and the .NET platform, esp ADO.NET.
> > 3) Why? this pretty much sums it up:
> >
> > "Without nested transactions, you have to put them at the top level, which
> > means every service method (unless you use AOP) has to care. That may or may
> > not be a good thing, but programmers forget things.
> > Conceptually I'd like my manager1.get() to be one transaction,
> > manager2.update() another, fileLogger.write() a third, with one 'update
> > record' transaction around the lot - belt and braces defensive programming."
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Nov 23, 2007 11:29 AM, Andrew Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> Why would you want nested cftransactions? The database doesn't support this
> >> anyway, and would be a nightmare to implement.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Andrew Scott
> >> Senior Coldfusion Developer
> >> Aegeon Pty. Ltd.
> >> www.aegeon.com.au
> >> Phone:+613 8676 4223
> >> Mobile: 0404 998 273
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> >> Of Barry Beattie
> >> Sent: Friday, 23 November 2007 10:25 AM
> >> To: [email protected]
> >> Subject: [cfaussie] Re: CFCAMP is this week!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> you got an idea for a feature request for CF9
> >>
> >> cool. Wanna share?
> >>
> >> (I suggested getting nested cftransactions going as well as video
> >> encoding libraries: AVI -> FLV for auto processing)
> >>
> >> both wish and bugs can be sent via
> >>
> >> http://www.adobe.com/go/wish
> >>
> >> which redirects to:
> >>
> >> http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform
> >>
> >> so, did you like the Brisbane show? any highlights/bits you found esp
> >> useful?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Nov 23, 2007 8:57 AM, Pat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi All,
> >>>
> >>> I remember at cfcamp in Brisbane, the adobe guys mentioned a URL that
> >>> should be used to advise on any feature requests for CF9? Can anybody
> >>> remember this?
> >>>
> >>> Also, was there a URL mentioned to report bugs in CF8?
> >>>
> >>> I have honestly tried to wade through the adobe pages but without any
> >>> success.
> >>>
> >>> Patrick.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Nov 19, 8:45 am, Geoff Bowers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Folks,
> >>>>
> >>>> Just a quick reminder that CFCAMP is this week!
> >>>>
> >>>>  * Tuesday 20-Nov-2007: Sydney at Rydges World Square
> >>>>  * Wednesday 21-Nov-2007: Brisbane at the Brisbane Convention &
> >>>> Exhibition Centre
> >>>>  * Thursday 22-Nov-2007: Melbourne at the Crown Promanade
> >>>>  * Tuesday 27-Nov-2007: Perth at the Hyatt Regency
> >>>>
> >>>> The day starts at 9.00am sharp -- so you might want to plan on being
> >>>> there around 8.30am for a cup of coffee and a chin wag before things
> >>>> kick off.  The day closes up officially around 4.30pm, but bars open
> >>>> much earlier so go figure.
> >>>>
> >>>> The final agenda for each city is available online:
> >>>>  http://cfcamp.pbwiki.com/
> >>>>
> >>>> Plus there'll be plenty of opportunities to catch up with colleagues
> >>>> in the hall way.
> >>>>
> >>>> Did I mention Adobe are giving away 2 copies of ColdFusion 8
> >>>> (Standard) at each CFCAMP?  You'll have to be officially registered to
> >>>> be in with a chance.
> >>>>
> >>>> Still plenty of space left so tell your friends:
> >>>>  http://cfcamp.eventbrite.com/
> >>>>
> >>>> See you there,
> >>>>
> >>>> -- geoff bowers
> >>>> Director
> >>>> Daemon Internet Consultants
> >>>> Sydney, Australia
> >>>> p.+612 9380 4162
> >>>> f.+612 9380 4204
> >>>> w.http://www.daemon.com.au/
> >>>> e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>>
> >>>> PS. Well OK, Perth is really next week but saying "CFCAMP is this week
> >>>> and next week" didn't sound as good.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
> >
>

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