Barry and the others have covered this off well, but if allowed i'd like to
throw my 2c into the hat.



   - I've gotten more out of WebDU's in the past years in terms of social
   networking than any conference i've attended or yet to attend (i'll be going
   to MAX this year, so jury is out on that one).
   - Presenting at WebDU is interesting as you truly feel you're at the
   top of your game yet you are determined not to fail and i see that in a lot
   of presenters of the past.
   - Daemon crew do their up most best to put on a good show, and it's
   worth just viewing the entire Adobe scene unfold etc.
   - You get to rant at the Adobe staff in a drunken haze, this is good
   for you especially Dale as i know you have a few opinions on a few issues
   that you should AIR (hehe see what I did then)..
   - People put a face to the name (ties in with the first point). If
   people see and interact with you, they are less likely to continue whining
   about you behind your back, suffice to say it can even amplify it if you
   look like a mung bean in person :) (get a facial and buy some new digs
   before you attend hehehe).
   - It's a hit & miss on the learning. There have been sessions where
   I've picked up a lot and other times it can be re-hashing the same stuff we
   see online. That being said, not everyone looks online so different strokes
   for different folks.
   - All conferences cost, and after being in the MIX planning etc I can
   tell you it's money that rarely makes a killer profit. If there is $950 on
   the tickets, chances are you're paying the bare minimum before it starts
   costing the organisers personal funds.
   - If you're looking at this from a perspective of "ROI" think of it as
   R&D funds. Not so much training, but R&D. I once read some research a while
   ago (think it was gartner) that every company at min should have 20% of the
   workload dedicated to R&D and 80% hands on.. as how else can you learn,
   innovate and progress.
   - Just go and stop hesitating :) it's only money  and you can always
   make it back..

Aside from this year, I've only ever missed one of these annual events (i
was beyond annoyed) and its a bitter pill to swallow for not attending this
year as sadly i'll be setting up Home 2.0 in Seattle. I think this is one of
the years to attend, given the new Products coming off the Adobe assembly
line and from a competitive standpoint, it will be interesting to see what
takes place at this event. As it's probably one of Adobe's key marketing
events world-wide.


On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 1:59 PM, Dale Fraser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  No flame wars please,
>
>
>
> I was looking at sending an Employee up to WebDU this year, originally I
> wasn't going to, but Mark Mandel bought it up at the VIC UG and it got a
> good reception, some were going and good things were said about it.
>
>
>
> I also like the 1 day training pre conference, this would have worked well
> for me as there was a topic there for the person I was looking to send. And
> I was all ready to get budget approval for the spend etc, but the guy I
> wanted to send is on leave.
>
>
>
> So I could send someone else I guess, but I don't want to send someone
> just for the sake of it.
>
>
>
> I would like to get the opinion from people who are going or who have
> been, if you feel it's worth the spend & time.
>
>
>
> The cost I worked out went something like this
>
>
>
> Conference      $950
>
> Workshop        $495
>
> Flights         $250
>
> Accommodation   $330
>
> Meal Expense    $100
>
> Taxis           $200
>
>            ---------
>
>            $2,325
>
>
>
> Which if you think about it for 3 days is $96 per hour. Not counting the
> salary we are paying while he is there. Now my usual rant is about how they
> should bring it to Melbourne or other States so that more people could
> attend, I could send all my people? But in reality at $950 a ticket, I
> wouldn't it's too expensive. The actual cost of not being in melbourne from
> above is still $880 but the actual ticket price is very high. I think I
> probably missed an earlybird discount might have saved a couple hundred
> dollars.
>
>
>
> At the end of the day $2k isn't insignificantit, but $2k might be a great
> investment, I consider the $495 workshop to be great value.
>
>
>
> So what do you think, especially the non Sydney siders, is it worth it, do
> you have trouble justifying it's cost? Do come back thinking that was money
> well spent, etc.
>
>
>
> Regards
>
> Dale Fraser
>
> http://learncf.com
>
> http://flexcf.com
>
>
>
>
>
> >
>


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