Dale, If we go by your words of wisdom, php, jsp, ruby, RoR to name a few are Application Servers.
Application servers are what I call IIS, Apache, TomCat, WebSphere and JBoss to name a few. None of these actually allow you to do any programming, Coldfusion is a scripting language that is a markup language that needs something else to deliver the content (Which is the role of an Application Server). Now under IIS and Apache, Coldfusion needs connectors which help connect the runtime to the Application Server for the standard version of Coldfusion. However in the enterprise version of Coldfusion, it requires an Application server to run the coldfusion code, such as JRun, Tomcat, JBoss WebShere, etc. So by that, Coldfusion can't be called an Application server and a programming/scripting language in the sam breath either. By your definition we should be calling .Net framework an Application Server then too, or even Java and perl, and cgi based applications. -----Original Message----- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dale Fraser Sent: Tuesday, 6 May 2008 12:55 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion Isn't a Programming Language? No I disagree. JRUN is a Java Application Server. But something that sits on top of Java can also be an application server and then Java is just the technology. You need to look up what an application server is. This wiki will help. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Application_server "Following the success of the Java platform, the term application server sometimes refers to a Java Platform--Enterprise Edition (J2EE) or Java EE 5 application server." ColdFusion is the server product, the thing that serves your application's, the application server. CFML is the syntax used to create your applications. Thus ColdFusion is NOT a language, never has been. The same way that .NET is not a language (VB, C#), Google App Engine is not a language (Python) etc. ColdFusion could easily add support for another language, such as ActionScript, which further highlights that ColdFusion is NOT the language. Regards Dale Fraser http://learncf.com http://flexcf.com -----Original Message----- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of CyberAngel Sent: Monday, 5 May 2008 10:24 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion Isn't a Programming Language? Actually Dale, you are wrong it is not an application server. JRun is an application server, and Coldfusion runs on top of Jrun and a very cut down version in the standard version. -----Original Message----- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dale Fraser Sent: Tuesday, 6 May 2008 12:21 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion Isn't a Programming Language? Well, ColdFusion is NOT a programming language, it's an application server. CFML IS a programming language and a complete one, I have written complete applications in it, wholesale distribution, inventory, etc. But it's just ColdFusion's bad rep getting it's tyres blown out again, but I'm not worried as this will all be fixed when ColdFusion 9 supports ActionScript and they rebrand ColdFusion ActionScript server. :P Regards Dale Fraser http://learncf.com http://flexcf.com -----Original Message----- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Velevitch Sent: Monday, 5 May 2008 10:11 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion Isn't a Programming Language? So why is PHP still on the list? Chris -- Chris Velevitch Manager - Adobe Platform Users Group, Sydney m: 0415 469 095 www.flashdev.org.au Adobe Platform Users Group, Sydney May meeting: tbd Date: Mon 26th May 6pm for 6:30 start Details and RSVP soon --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
