Andrew, good on you for bringing this up.

> Junior developers
> asking whether they should try to learn it.  bosses asking whether we
> should start including the word in our pitches.  clients who have had
> a visit from their adobe rep asking whether this new stuff is really
> going to be valuable to them.

IMHO, these are the sort of questions that go down really well at
ColdFusion user groups.

sure it's one night out a month but you can tap into people who can
give you great answers to what it is and what it means for ColdFusion
developers

just the other week Dale Fraser in Melb did a CFUG presso on CF + Flex.

1) no one is an island.
2) CFUG's are there to help people
3) people forget 1) and 2)


(it's a programmers way to make Flash applications: Actionscript -
like C# or JavaScript with a HTML type mark-up language. alternative
to fancy Ajax-based web apps)


On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 3:50 PM, andrewlorien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I don't think Scott was referring to you, Mike.
> so i'm changing the subject of your thread, because it's much more
> interesting...
>
> you said:
>
>>And I had two calls this week from clients asking me what this
>>"Silverlight" thing is, and should they install it.   I was hoping to
>>be able to call them back and say something like "yes it's ok to
>>install.  have a look at <http://url here> and you can see for
>>yourself what it does".
>
> As a coldfusion developer (who joined this list hoping people might
> sometimes talk about coldfusion, and not just whether it's dead), i
> get in a lot of conversations lately about Flex.  Junior developers
> asking whether they should try to learn it.  bosses asking whether we
> should start including the word in our pitches.  clients who have had
> a visit from their adobe rep asking whether this new stuff is really
> going to be valuable to them.
> But try to find a page you could show any of those people describing
> Flex
> adobe.com/flex was my first bet.
> you get this single sentence:
> "Flex is a highly productive, free open source framework for building
> and maintaining expressive web applications that deploy consistently
> on all major browsers, desktops, and operating systems."
> ok, so it's like html?
> the first link is to a video showing how to build a flex app.  lucky
> i'm a web programmer, and lucky i use Eclipse, it's at least a bit
> familiar to me.
> but after 30 seconds i stop it and go to the next link, "see sample
> apps".  but they aren't sample apps, they're tutorials.  i don't know
> what it is yet, so i haven't installed it, so tutorials aren't going
> to help me.
> so i try the last link on the page "view live flex apps".  which is
> finally going to help my boss and his client.  and i realise it's the
> same as the "view the flex showcase" link just UNDER "download flex"
> on the titlebar.
>
> i'm just doing the same rant as you were, Mike - complaining about
> being forced to install stuff before i know what it is.
>
>
>
> >
>

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