I should also point out that the SOE of the enterprise environment uses IE6 (thousands of machines)
there is a pilot and review (run by the department next door to me) of evaluating for deployment ... wait for it ... IE7 ... On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 12:24 PM, Barry Beattie<barry.beat...@gmail.com> wrote: > so what you guys are saying is that you're hopeful that Microsoft is > successful in promoting IE8 ... yes? > > > The real problem as far as I am concerned is that people using IE6 are > often >> using operating systems which Microsoft will no longer support, but still >> expect web sites to support them. > > you are NOT going to have any joy converting those people from > Internet Explorer to Chrome or Firefox. Give up now before the > heartache. > > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 12:18 PM, Andrew Myers<am2...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Interesting discussion. >> >> Personally, the main issue I have with IE6 these days is I have a lot of >> users on my site who want to print everything out and I'm often getting >> people complaining about the right margin getting cut off. You can always >> guarantee these are IE6 users. I create a separate print stylesheet that >> only has percentage based widths in it, rather than pixel based it fixes the >> issues in IE6. But IMHO it's a nuisance having to do that when the problem >> has already been addressed in more modern browsers. >> >> Not sure that I agree with your comment that it's unfair to target this >> browser though. The fact is that it's old technology - there have been two >> newer IE releases with address a lot of its issues, and there are many other >> alternatives. >> >> The real problem as far as I am concerned is that people using IE6 are often >> using operating systems which Microsoft will no longer support, but still >> expect web sites to support them. >> >> The good news is that it is slowly dying of old age as far as I can >> tell...we're down to about 23% of our users on it. Hopefully just like $1 >> and $2 notes and copper coins they'll all be out of circulation soon. :-))) >> >> Andrew. >> >> 2009/7/17 Steve Onnis <st...@cfcentral.com.au> >>> >>> Today I thought I would log into my twitter account after 7 months mind >>> you and have a look around again thinking "maybe" I can put it to some use >>> (jury is still out on that one), but while I was in there I noticed in the >>> right hand column under "Trending topics" I noticed a topic names "IE6 Must >>> die". Being human and curious by nature I thought I would check it out and >>> noticed some interesting comments like "IE6 must die for the web to move on" >>> and "I spent days trying to get sites looking vaguely similar in IE6 to >>> Firefox. IE IS EVIL! ". >>> >>> I guess my question is, should IE6 die? Is IE really evil? I hear a lot of >>> talk about how Microsoft browsers don't adhere to W3C standards and >>> developing for IE is such a pain and FireFox is a much better browser. How >>> much time do you really spend checking cross browser compatibility? Is it >>> really worth it? In my experience, I would say not a great deal. If you >>> stick to the standards I have found that you end up just tweaking the CSS a >>> little and most of if is because of positioning issues. That said, this >>> sort of issue is not only related to the IE browsers or IE6 specifically. >>> MAC in general are a pain because of the way they render fonts and have >>> there own style of "classic" fonts like Arial and so on. Issues like that >>> cause problems with padding and spacing, especially if you are looking for a >>> pixel perfect layout. At least with IE browsers you can use the IF/ELSE >>> technique to include specific CSS files to target specific versions of the >>> browser. >>> >>> There are CSS hacks for everything now, and honestly I don't think you >>> need them as long as you stick to simple standards code. A lot can be >>> achieved if you do this without having to sacrifice functionality or >>> compatibility for the plethora of browsers available. >>> >>> In the end, every browser, new and old has their quirks and to point the >>> finger and at one browser is unfair if not unjust. >>> >>> Steve >>> >> >> >> >> >> > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
