Not sure on the value of my contribution or if at this stage we can say
anything that will be anything that has not been said already.

>From someone who started in a CF shop, did the whole Spectra thing, worked
through the studio moving to .NET, and then moved into a .NET-centric studio
after, for me the ongoing cost of hosting was a deal breaker.  The CF
argument against .asp used to be that it did things out of the box that were
painful in .asp (database connections, emailing), but not so sure that is as
solid anymore.

Chad
who has been trying to go mainstream himself, but ended up as a bit of a
creek or tributary




On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 12:31 PM, Dale Fraser <[email protected]> wrote:

> I think we are barking up the wrong tree.
>
> Adobe do no less marketing than JSP or PHP and they are still popular. Sure
> .NET do more, but Microsoft can afford to.
>
> ColdFusion isn't mainstream, it's never going to be mainstream, it's growth
> in use is probably only reflective of how many additional people are doing
> web development, not because it's more popular than year X.
>
> But I don't pick a technology based on popularity or marketing and shiny
> brochures. I pick one that does the job I need and offers me something.
>
> So while it would be nice if Adobe did more in Australia, it won't have any
> significant impact, even in the Firmware days ColdFusion wasn't mainstream.
>
> The reason it isn't main stream, is the cost, Adobe can argue this however
> they like, but if ColdFusion were free 10+ years ago, I think ColdFusion
> would be mainstream now.
>
> It's too late now, even if made free, it would need to both be free and
> heavily marketed, which cost wise probably doesn't make sense.
>
> It will be interesting to see how Adobe handle the proposed Server Side
> ActionScript marketing and pricing.
> It will be interesting to see if Railo can succeed, from what I can tell
> New
> Atlanta BlueDragon has failed.
>
> Regards
> Dale Fraser
>
> http://dale.fraser.id.au
> http://cfmldocs.com
> http://learncf.com
> http://flexcf.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
> Behalf
> Of Steve Onnis
> Sent: Monday, 31 May 2010 11:48 AM
> To: [email protected]
>  Subject: RE: [cfaussie] Re: JB-HI Moving to dotnet
>
> Why are they not sourcing the info directly from the reseller system?  If I
> join up to be a reseller I shouldn't have to be manually added into the
> reseller system and then into the website so I can be found for searching.
> And in addition to that, as a paying partner member if I google "adobe
> coldfusion partner australia" I would atleast expect to get people listed
> as
> partners on the adobe website but I don't.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Barry Beattie [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Monday, 31 May 2010 11:40 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [cfaussie] Re: JB-HI Moving to dotnet
>
> > Quite frankly, I don't really care WHY things are broken,
>
> you should - because even if it's fixed, it'll be unfixed given enough
> time. It's the underlying causes that's broken. The portal is just a
> symptom.
>
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