They don't support complex types thus generally aren't used at least I haven't 
seen anyone using them in years

Regards
Dale Fraser

> On 4 Apr 2014, at 10:38 pm, "ColdGen Internet Solutions" 
> <coldgen.internet.soluti...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> You are wrong ColdFusion still uses them even with J2ee. J2ee is just a more 
> secure method of tracking season.. The principal is the same
> 
>> On 04/04/2014 10:35 PM, "Dale Fraser" <d...@fraser.id.au> wrote:
>> I think client variables died with cf5
>> 
>> Regards
>> Dale Fraser
>> 
>>> On 4 Apr 2014, at 10:32 pm, "ColdGen Internet Solutions" 
>>> <coldgen.internet.soluti...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> None = nooooooo. Try turning it on.  ColdFusion under Java 101. Also update 
>>> JRE to 1.7 update 51
>>> 
>>>> On 04/04/2014 10:00 PM, "Phil Rasmussen" <ara...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hey Peter. Not using Client Vars at all, it's set to storage = none in CF 
>>>> Admin. Purely J2EE Session cookies so the persistence between subdomains 
>>>> relies solely on the cookie which is where i'm stuck as none of my 
>>>> settings appear to help with the persistence.
>>>> 
>>>>> On Friday, 4 April 2014 18:39:02 UTC+10, ColdGen Internet Solutions wrote:
>>>>> Are you using the SAME database for storing Client Variables across all 
>>>>> of the domains?​ (and not storing as cookie or in registry).
>>>>>  
>>>>> Just checking!
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Peter Tilbrook
>>>>> Web Administrator, The Club Group Pty. Ltd.
>>>>> Managing Director, ColdGen Internet Solutions
>>>>> Professional Adobe ColdFusion Application Development
>>>>> President, ACT and Region ColdFusion Users Group
>>>>> PO Box 2247
>>>>> Queanbeyan, NSW, 2620
>>>>> AUSTRALIA
>>>>> 
>>>>> Telephone: +61-2-6104-9981
>>>>> Mobile: +61-2-047-623-579
>>>>> 
>>>>> Email Address: peter.t...@coldgen.com
>>>>> WWW: http://www.coldgen.com/
>>>>> Twitter: @ColdGen
>>>>> 
>>>>> ABN: 80 826 226 128
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 4 April 2014 18:48, Phil Rasmussen <ara...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Dmitry
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I have read over that article a few days back and unfortunately it 
>>>>>> hasn't helped my problem. I'm also not entirely sure what she means with 
>>>>>> regards to changing config settings for J2EE so i've responded to her to 
>>>>>> get further information.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Charlie i've been retesting with your suggestions today and tried a 
>>>>>> variation of the cookie manual setting with the encodeValue set to true 
>>>>>> and false, in addition to playing around with the domain mask as either 
>>>>>> ".domain.com" or "*.domain.com" neither of which seem to work. I have 
>>>>>> noticed using web inspector there on occasion appears to be 2 identical 
>>>>>> JSESSIONID's getting set and sometimes one of them has a slight 
>>>>>> difference in the encoding which is probably due to the fact I was 
>>>>>> mucking around with these encodeValue settings and not clearing my 
>>>>>> existing cookies. Either way I just cannot get the sessions to stick 
>>>>>> when jumping between subdomains and I keep getting issued with a fresh 
>>>>>> JSESSIONID token.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'm wondering if there is a Tomcat config setting or something deeper to 
>>>>>> help with this cross domain session management as I can't think of 
>>>>>> anything else.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>> Phil
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Thursday, 3 April 2014 14:53:13 UTC+10, Dmitry Yakhnov wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi Phil,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> This post seems to be pretty relevant to your problem:
>>>>>>> http://www.shilpikhariwal.com/2012/02/how-to-secure-coldfusion-session.html
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> In the end it says:
>>>>>>> Note: all these configurations we discussed are valid for CF session 
>>>>>>> cookies and Authentication cookies. For JSESSIONID, one needs to make 
>>>>>>> changes in server related configurations.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> So probably direct edit of config files is involved.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Dmitry.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Thursday, 3 April 2014 09:26:13 UTC+11, Phil Rasmussen wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi Guys
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Just wondering if anyone has come across an issue in CF10 whereby 
>>>>>>>> sessions are dropped when crossing between HTTP and HTTPS, even though 
>>>>>>>> the JSESSIONID is being explicitly passed in these links which had 
>>>>>>>> worked for us for over 5 years without fail prior to CF10. From what I 
>>>>>>>> have read there appears to be a big change to address the Session 
>>>>>>>> Fixation security issues which would explain the HTTP/HTTPS drops but 
>>>>>>>> I can't find a workaround for this.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Essentially we have CF10 installed with J2EE Session Management turned 
>>>>>>>> on, and the default HTTPOnly set to true. In the application the 
>>>>>>>> domain structure looks as follows:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> https://book.domain.com
>>>>>>>> http://profile.domain.com
>>>>>>>> http://approve.domain.com
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> When crossing between the domains (which had worked for many years 
>>>>>>>> prior) the session drops and CF issues a new set of session 
>>>>>>>> identifiers. In order to try and bypass the SSL issue, i've switch the 
>>>>>>>> entire application over the HTTPS so at no stage will the session or 
>>>>>>>> cookies be served over HTTP, which works fine if the user doesn't 
>>>>>>>> cross domains, but the moment a different subdomain is clicked (ie to 
>>>>>>>> make a booking) then the session drops.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Even setting a cookie  in the onSessionStart() as follows has no 
>>>>>>>> effect:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> <cfcookie name="jsessionid" value="#session.sessionid#" 
>>>>>>>> domain=".domain.com">
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Has anyone come across this behaviour migrating to CF10?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>> Phil
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