Hi all,

   just to butt in on the conversation - I researched blue dragon a
   bit last year, and the conclusion I came to was that it's a
   decent alternative to CF for reasonably non-complicated sites.
   If you're aware of the shortcomings (which they're supposedly
   working on) and you don't have enormous demands, it could be a
   viable (cheaper) option for some clients.

Toby



Tuesday, January 21, 2003, 10:56:49 AM, you wrote:

WS> Ben, 

WS> I did a very quick evaluation on Blue Dragon when we were looking at
WS> purchasing another set of CFMX licenses. Price wise, implementation of 2 X
WS> 4CPU enterprise licenses of blue dragon was about the 72% of the cost of
WS> implementing 2 X 4CPU enterprise licenses of CFMX excluding the cost of
WS> purchasing the java app server. (this was just before christmas)

WS> Advantages
WS> � Supports CF5.0 commands and syntax
WS> � Allows packaging of CFML applications completely within a standard J2EE
WS> archive file (WAR or EAR) for distribution.
WS> � Plans to support CFMX syntax currently under development
WS> � Claims to supports BEA WebLogic, IBM WebSphere, Sun ONE (iPlanet), Oracle
WS> iAS, and Macromedia JRun

WS> Disadvantages
WS> � Company is relatively small (New Atlanta Communications, LLC)
WS> � Does not support all CF5.0 commands and syntax
WS> � Version 1.0 of the system was released in April 2002.
WS> � Would cause divergent development efforts between intranet applications
WS> and internet applications.                      
WS> � No Australian support for the product
WS> � User base is not visible.
WS> � May not contain the required stub between the web server and the
WS> application server, this functionality may be supplied by the underlying
WS> application server.
WS> � Per CPU licensing model * note CFMX for j2ee is also per CPU licensing

WS> Scott.


WS> -----Original Message-----
WS> From: Ben Reid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
WS> Sent: Tuesday, 21 January 2003 10:22 AM
WS> To: CFAussie Mailing List
WS> Subject: [cfaussie] What's the word on Blue Dragon?


WS> All,

WS> What's the word on Blue Dragon?

WS> Has anyone investigated launching CF5.0 sites on Blue Dragon?
WS> Deploying on J2EE Servers?

WS> Bearing in mind the recent price hike of CFMX Server Pro, we are
WS> considering deploying on Blue Dragon to save our customers $$$.

WS> Any thoughts?


WS> Ben Reid
WS> Certified Advanced Cold Fusion 5 Developer


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