Jason

Please dont see it as an attack on yourself as a response from someone with
an attiyude problem (although I sometimes wonder with Scott:P)

Its just that I personally have never seen you on this list before, and it
was just strange that someone new would ask straight off the bat for people
to let you try and hack into there systems.  Basically, how about an
introduction from you?  Who are you?  Whats your background? Who do you work
for?

I can see the reasoning for someone doing something like this, but for me, I
would probably only let someone that I saw as an authority on the subject
perform this on any of my applications.

And even if I did, for what purpose it this for?  Time and time again, we
see papers and articles on the web baging the crap out of Macromedia and
ColdFusion saying that it not safe and that ASP or PHP is sooo much better.

You have given no clear indication of how the results of your tests will be
used, or even if they will be made available to the ColdFusion community as
a whole.  Some people, just like Scott did, could just assume that you could
be just some linux geek tht is out there to defame the product, and other
people could see what your trying to do, and take advantage of it.  Just not
knowing who you are, the purpose of the tests or how they will be used just
makes it harder to interperate which one you are.

No offence

Regards
Steve Onnis
Domain Concept Designs
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("If you think it can't be done, you haven't asked me!") - Steve Onnis


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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jasongreenfield
Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 7:04 PM
To: CFAussie Mailing List
Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Security


Mate, I think you got a serious attitude problem.
Trying to help and make the Internet community a safer place, and what do
you get attitude from someone like you. For some reason most guys like you
always feel attacked, and do nothing but mistrust. What's wrong? You know
you got security holes but don't want it to be known?

Fine, if no one is interested. But I don't deserve your attitude mister.

Chill out man.
Jason

> You could, but you could also run the risk of tapping the wrong
> machine/address... maybe its a dodgey ISP or maybe its a Topgun one that
has
> an er33t Sysadmin... the question is... do you feel lucky... well do ya
> punk... feel lucky...
>
> I seriously doubt you're chances of this project going ahead, furthermore
i
> seriously question the sanity of anyone on this list considering letting
you
> in..... mainly for one important reason is that .. up until today?? who
are
> you? ie if Steve wanted to test something on my server, i'd weigh up the
> pro's cons and knowing the fact that i have a rough idea on where he lives
> (in the event something bad was to happen, i can then order a hitman to
> break his legs)... but with you? hell you're a .com address for a start
> which means you could be a either a saint working on the behave of all
thats
> good.. or you could be Osama Bin Laden's pet monkey? we have no real way
of
> knowing you're who you say you are or what you're intentions are.
>
> Peace Luv, and stay the hell away from my servers punk! :)
>
> Scott


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