I agree with Mike, and not because he is my host, a friend or a particularly nice bloke (and he is all of the aforementioned).
To have a standard is a good thing. Not speaking for MK but I think I changed his ideas on how ColdFusion applications can be designed, written, deployed and, ultimately, maintained. You are on a winner for several reasons: 1. You are a non-conformist Basically you are "doing your own thing" despite moderate criticism from the likes of Macromedia's Sean Corfield who has by his own admission been involved in (ColdFusion) web development only recently compared to us (8 years now). 2. Everything (to a degree) you have stated makes sense - without conforming to a specific methodology. However: There is methodology and there is framework. ColdFusion may not be "unique" in the requirements for some sort of "framework" but it does exist, at least pre-MX J2EE to a degree. Let me explain... - Application.cfm (executed BEFORE every CFM template) (note case - please fix MM for true OS compatibilty in regards to case sensitivity) should always be used on at least an application basis - especially when hosting more than one app on the single server (assuming not running multiple instances of CF). At least provide the basice like application name even if not using client, session et al. - OnRequestEnd.cfm (executed AFTER every other REQUESTED CFM template has executed - ie: have you finished yet?) Also note the case. If you can understand the RULES that CF now applies, both historically and perhaps in the future, your methodology will stand up to scrutiny. It might not be Fusebox 4.x, or Mach Mars, but as long as when you are hit by a bus and do not return your own code will inspire - and not frustrate. And that is one of my only fears at the moment. My code is still in use (first time Fusebox effort) see: http://www.foodstandards.gov.au/mediareleasespublications/nutritionpanelcalc ulator/ You need to choose the "Accessibility" version. Done in CF5 with Fusebox 1.0. My point is I finished that project 3 years ago. Australian and New Zealand Food Authority (ANZFA) are now Food Standards Australia. I utilised a methodology (in this case Fusebox) and they are still using it. And whoever needs to "tweak it" will be better for it because of my faith in a METHODOLOGY. So keep me posted on your ideas. Let's make an Aussie version because we DO think differently. Peter Tilbrook ColdFusion Applications Developer ColdGen Internet Solutions Manager, ACT and Region ColdFusion Users Group - http://www.actcfug.com 4/73 Tharwa Road Queanbeyan, NSW, 2620 AUSTRALIA Telephone: +61-2-6284-2727 Mobile: +61-0439-401-823 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] \?\/?/ |?|)?) /?/\?\ \?\/?/ /_/\_\ |_|)_) \_\/_/ /_/\_\ RULES -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Michael Kear Sent: Thursday, 8 January 2004 2:15 AM To: CFAussie Mailing List Subject: [cfaussie] RE: Methodology Nice job Taco. Your effort could well become the template for others to use too. Perhaps not the exact same specs in all cases, but you will develop it over time to cover all the issues. If I'd been given a document like that when I started on my last contract, it would have been much easier to write code that's compatible in format to their existing code. Over time, a project owner would be able to have lots of programmers coming and going and still end up with code that is reasonably coherent and with a corporate style so to speak. I think anyone who hires contractors should have a document like this one, laying out the corporate standards, preferences, etc. Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Taco Fleur Sent: Wednesday, 7 January 2004 9:58 PM To: CFAussie Mailing List Subject: [cfaussie] Methodology Guys (Guru's), I was just (humbly) wondering if you could gaze your hawk eyes over the following http://www.tacofleur.com/index/blog/archive/2004/01/?072043 It's basically a methodology I have successfully worked with for a long time, I know all you Guru's out there all have your own Methodologies, so therefore I would appreciate some input if you have some time. http://www.tacofleur.com/index/blog/archive/2004/01/?072043 As you might notice, it's not pretty and not finished, but if I don't throw it out there now I never will..... Taco Fleur http://www.tacofleur.com/index/blog/ 0421 851 786 Tell me and I will forget Show me and I will remember Teach me and I will learn --- You are currently subscribed to cfaussie as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MXDU2004 + Macromedia DevCon AsiaPac + Sydney, Australia http://www.mxdu.com/ + 24-25 February, 2004 --- You are currently subscribed to cfaussie as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MXDU2004 + Macromedia DevCon AsiaPac + Sydney, Australia http://www.mxdu.com/ + 24-25 February, 2004
