I've done the same, Steve

I am running Apache 2.0 and CFMX 6.1 on JRun4 and this is on a rock
solid sun sparc server.


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the thing is that the server this is happening on, i installed cf to run
on jrun, not the standard install

is this how you guys have installed it?

Steve

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Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 12:20 PM
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There are a number of reasons why this sort of behaviour can happen
outside of the db patch  issues.

We found tighening all of our code and sticking to the recommended best
practices for CFMX (var'ing variables, defining arguments ect. )
resolved a great deal of these. Most likely caus of handing is thread
deadlocking, good archiecture can prevent these happening but they are
very difficult to track down. Going over your code and making sure
errors are trapped/prevented correctly and at a very granular level can
also help with this. Not saying your not doing this but you do have to
be really tight else you get issues with bigger apps.

One bug we did have causing this issue was isdefined failing

Here is a good link for this

http://www.macromedia.com/support/jrun/ts/documents/4.0_unresponsive.htm

I also wrote a monitor tool to log and report metric data (6.1 not J2EE
at the moment, just working on that one) which gave us some clues as to
what was going on. You can view a copy here
http://210.54.149.108/server_monitor
click on the coldfusion reports link for cf data and server reports for
ram/cpu stuff. Ignore timeouts at 00 - just a bug, but looking we did
have timeouts at 11am so I can inspect logs and find reason. Not to hard
to chuck together if you need one.

We also found we had an issue with isdefined function failing and return
false results which caused us some issues, i recommend changing to
structkeyexists instead.

Hope this helps

Grant




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We have been facing similar problems lately.

All I did was, applied the Hot fix for data source connection pooling.

And kept my fingers crossed.


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Sent: Tuesday, 9 March 2004 10:57 AM
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We've been having a major battle with this here as well.

Of our roughly 40 sites running their own CF servers, 2 of them are
regularly (almost every day) having this happen. No other sites are
reporting this issue. All of our sites run CFMX6.1, with ODBC
connections to an Informix datasource configured through the windows
server ODBC control panel. Both of these sites host the CF and DB server
of the same piece of server hardware. These servers are not performing
any other duties besides these 2 functions. Both are highly speced,
quality servers, not tarted up desktops. Neither are under an excessive
load. Neither are running any CF code that isn't being run at a dozen
other sites. It seems to be to do with using ODBC drivers instead of
JDBC drivers, however changing over to JDBC is going to be a huge
programming and an even bigger testing task. We've since been advised
that using an ODBC connection to a db is not recommended in a production
environment. (I must have missed that memo!)

We've also found that the services cannot be stopped and restarted, but
what we have found is that you can end the jrun task via task manager
and then restart the service. This saves doing a whole server reboot.
We've also found that running CF in application mode rather than service
mode gives some small increase in stability. (ie. run
cfusionmx/bin/cfstart.bat instead of starting the service) We've been in
constant touch with Macromedia support over this, and are yet to fully
resolve it. We have tried _all_ the available relevant hotfixes, and
none have made any difference.

Here's our symptoms.
Everything is running fine.
Database queries start to take longer to process.
Additional requests for db queries increase query response times. eg. a
very simple query that normally takes 31ms, goes up to 450ms, then 995ms
then over 10,000ms over the space of 10 to 20 minutes. Some longer
queries _never_ return results. During this time, non db cf code runs at
normal speeds and shows no signs of slowing down. The database is also
responding normally if accessed directly (ie not via CF) After this
escalates a little longer, the CF server dies completely and all
requests (both db and non db) to it return a JRUN error:  The server
encountered an internal error and was unable to complete your request.
JRun closed connection This error is displayed to any pages that started
running before the server dies. A very slightly different error is
displayed to pages that were requested to run after the server dies.

I've analysed the IIS and CF server logs spanning some of these crashes,
and nothing untoward seems to be happening. There is no unusual or even
high server load. Pages are being run that were running successfully
multiple times before during the same day.

I'm stumped and I feel your pain Steve.

I'm about to start recoding for JDBC drivers.

Regards

Darren Tracey

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve Onnis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, 8 March 2004 11:33 PM
> To: CFAussie Mailing List
> Subject: [cfaussie] Re: JRUN For COldfusion
>
>
>
> It just sits there
>
> I have to end up rebooting the whole server cause if i try and 
> stop/start the cf service it doesnt stop and errors.
>
> Steve
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Sean A 
> Corfield
> Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2004 3:46 AM
> To: CFAussie Mailing List
> Subject: [cfaussie] Re: JRUN For COldfusion
>
>
> On Mar 4, 2004, at 11:52 PM, Steve Onnis wrote:
> > This probably links with my coldfusion process thread
> >
> > The jrun.exe every couple of days latly has been going to 100% and i

> > dont know why.  the same app has been running fine for the last 6 
> > months and I want to know whats causing it
>
> Does it go to 100% and stay there or just it just spike to 100%? Could

> it be database driver issues? Have you applied the hot fixes available

> on macromedia.com?
>
> Regards,
> Sean
>
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