Hosting isn't on the cards at the moment either, you can request a "deal" via the ISV price model, but i'd talk to the MM folks more on that one.

Also, if you really want FLEX you can negotiate with Macromedia a little, especially if you are a player and have a really "wow" FLEX concept that may help them sell it. (sorry to be blunt to Macromedia, but we all know how the - you scratch my back, i scratch yours - works.

In theory FLEX is pretty much capable of doing a "hosting" situation, although it would require each client to have his/her own dedicated instance of FLEX per account. Reason being is you don't want to be on a public instance, especially if some clown nests too many HBOX's inside one another, as the compile time would climb like a monkey on crack, climbing a tree.

I think they are still working out advanced pricing solutions (OEM etc) and if they did release a price model for shared hosting, going by the 12k price tag, it will very expensive imho!



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Darren Tracey wrote:

The licensing expressly forbids this.
You can run as many apps on the one Flex server as you want, but they must all belong 
to one commercial entity. Commercial hosting is not allowed with the standard license.

I can't see anyone providing 3rd party hosting for this product in a hurry.

Darren Tracey


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Maybe the CPU usage would be prohibitive, but what about something like
this:


(Say) 10 of us on this list get together and put $2000 in a pot. We buy a
fairly powerful server for $4000 and and flex for $16000.


Then we host col-location hosting for $120 per month.

Then we all setup vhosts on the machine... (mine could be
http://flex.boardofstudies.nsw.edu.au) and sever just my flex apps from that
server and the rest of my application from my CF server. Then it could go
back to my cfc on my server for the data etc.


Is this so crazy, that it might just work?

Gav

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As you know, i've been FLEX banner waving since i got my

grubby hands on


it, so believe me when i say, IT HURTS to see it being shot down.

I have high hopes that eventually Macromedia will see the light and
reduce the price! There has been talk of a single CPU

licencse as a bid


to lower FLEX into the medium to large corporation level,

but seriously


most servers come min with a DUAL CPU, and FLEX isn't

exactly light with


the memory.

If you do decide to go the 12k price tag, but fear the cpu

load, i guess


there is an alternative technique available, in that use FLEX to
generate the SWFS once a day, and basically shift that swf onto your
main webserver.

From memory there is the ability to set timeouts on the swf aswell,
this is in the uber version though (developer versions

won't be able to


be served without FLEX server itself doing it, otherwise it

just halts).


What would be everyones IDEAL price range? in that what

would be the max


you would be prepared to pay for such a thexthy piece of J2EE luv.
Personally, we thought the same price model as CFMX

Enterprise would be


nice, and also had expectations that FCS was thrown in aswell.

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Jeremy wrote:


Flex...pity it doesn't have flexable pricing.

We have been waiting for Flex to come out to start using

its concepts on


some Applications which will replace win32 applications.

I showed my


manager the pricing module of Flex and she laughed and

walked away. We are

a large company but even large companies have a limit.

I'm guessing we


won't be buying Flex nor programming in it.

Pitty it looked like a good concept!

Jeremy



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