Geoff Bowers wrote:
Scott Barnes wrote:
I guess I must have missed the sophisticated Java and .NET RIA options you're referring to. So in terms of RIA style apps you are referring to what exactly? Java Applets and ActiveX controls?? I say this cos I assume you're not comparing SWF's to desktop EXE's? What would be the point in this scenario?
I don't know how else to explain in that, peoples expectations of FLASH is a little too high if you ask me. I've read over the years a constant gripe in that "Flash sux because it couldn't emulate the way i expected it to in a normal EXE client" both in performance and UI usability.
RIAS are in danger of trying to hard to emulate the desktop EXE experience, why do you think the Macromedia Experience Design team went out of their way to make sure the V2 components weren't exactly the same as the operating system version components.
People do compare SWF's to EXE and the moment it doesn't add-up, its considered a "toy" and if you look at it through there eyes (which is a fair call) it does come off looking like a toy and minime JVM.
Perhaps Flash is piss poor when its handling large amounts of data when it shouldn't be. I found this recent Flex post on handling large data sets pretty straightforward:
http://www.markme.com/mchotin/archives/004610.cfm
Yes and No, What matts shown is the basics of how to think outside the square in breaking data up into chunks for consuming, thats all good and works well. Except, when you have an occasionally connected client situation, then you have to get a little more trickier as you don't have the benefit of a RemoteObject, and are then forced to go the XML path (ie our sales staff through-out the world, don't always have internet connectivity).
Flash can hardly be considered a toy for the construction of RIA's. If it is, what is the "real deal"?
i never said it was a toy for RIA approach, i said it was a TOY in the eyes of attempting to use it like a desktop EXE. Hence "i wouldn't try and write a 3D Animation program in Flash"
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