yes, for what it's worth, I will BUT the horse may have bolted, sadly.
it's quite possible that doing this will break existing code.

at present (back in the real world) the line "myObj.length = 50;"
assigns "50" to the THIS (public scope) struct key called "length" from
the calling CFM page. 

With what I'm suggesting it's actually a call to a pseudo function (the
setter for the property) to pass the value to a variable (protected
scope).

oh well, juat a thought
barry.b


-----Original Message-----
From: TRACEY, Darren [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, 2 July 2004 3:13 PM
To: CFAussie Mailing List
Subject: [cfaussie] RE: CFPROPERTY is rubbish! (was: this)

I've got to agree.
I've always scratched my head when I tried to work out what was going
through the heads of the developers of CF when they thought up how
cfproperty was going to work.

Might I suggest that you send a copy of your original email to Tim
Buntel at
Macromedia (Blackstone product manager) so that he knows how you'd like
it
to work. You never know, he may just make it happen, or possibly has
already
done something similar.

Regards 

Darren Tracey
Systems Analyst
Web Applications
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> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Barry Beattie [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, 2 July 2004 14:24
> To:   CFAussie Mailing List
> Subject:      [cfaussie] CFPROPERTY is rubbish! (was: this)
> 
> 
> 
> the whole "this" episode is partly caused by the useless CFPROPERTY
> (except for WS's, admittedly)
> 
> this is what I thought CFPROPERTY should really be...
> 
> <hypothetical type="wishlist">
> 
> <cfcomponent>
> <cfproperty name="variables._length" type="numeric">
>       <cfpropertyaction type="get">
>               <cfreturn variables._length />
>       </cfpropertyaction>
> 
>       <cfpropertyaction type="set">
>               <cfargument name="length" type="numeric" required="yes"
> />
>               <cfset variables._length = arguments.length />
>       </cfpropertyaction>
> </cfproperty>
> 
> <cfproperty name="variables._width" type="numeric">
>       <cfpropertyaction type="get">
>               <cfreturn variables._width />
>       </cfpropertyaction>
> 
>       <cfpropertyaction type="set">
>               <cfargument name="width" type="numeric" required="yes"
> />
>               <cfset variables._width = arguments.width />
>       </cfpropertyaction>
> </cfproperty>
> ...{more code}...
> </cfcomponent>
> 
> so you can go
> 
> (calling page)
> 
> <cfscript>
>  myObj.length = 50;
>  if (myObj.width GT 100){
>       myObj.width = 100;
> }
>  myObj.update();
> </cfscript>
> 
> </hypothetical>
> 
> now, if you ignore the lack of data validation that the THIS scope can
> provide, you can do this right now with the THIS scope.
> 
> but as SeanC, ScottB, Spike, et al have said, the "THIS" public scope
is
> bad (mostly for type checking/validation reasons)
> 
> BUT... how CAN you have properties in CF that works as easily as, say,
> VB's properties? without resorting to passing a million arguments to
> methods (eg in the update() method above)?
> 
> where are the real setters and getters? why is CFPROPERTY so useless?
> 
>  
> my Friday 2c worth
> barry.b
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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