http://tmda.net/ is open source and it works quite like spam arrest.

Saves you the trouble of developing it! ;-)

G

On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 13:31:58 +1000, Scott Barnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> heheh yeah, I don't mind SpamArrest but can't be assed paying for it. In
> truth, I'm a poor lil ol HTML coder who gets by on my good looks alone
> hehehe
> 
> Trying to figure out a cheaper alternative as combine my existing hosting
> costs, its starts racking up at my end. Hmm.. i could rip the idea off of
> SpamArrest and make a CFMX version of it.
> 
> That'll do eh what what.
> 
> Scott
> 
> "Andrew Muller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
> >
> > Like Robin said, you guys should try out what happens with Spam
> > Arrest, you can try it for a month for free: http://www.spamarrest.com
> >
> > Send me an email at work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] to see what happens.
> >
> > Scott, you should know what the drill is as I've already got you in my
> > authorised list from 21 June.
> >
> > Andrew
> >
> > On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 12:22:32 +1000 (EST), Matthew Armsby
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > :) On sending this message, I got hit by the Australian Antartic
> Divisions
> > > mail server, suspecting I was spam.  Their handling was nice,
> automaticly
> > > replied to an address it didn't recognise sending a 'reply to confirm
> > > you're not spam' message.  That would work with your concept too, and is
> > > better than just confirming the domain exists.
> > > Account 1:
> > > CF(or other) checks this mail, if sender is not in DB:
> > > Send 'Confirm you're not spam' email requesting a resend with a UUID in
> > > the message (store the UUID in a DB with the sender address, and
> > > authorised set to false).
> > > If sender is in DB check to see if authorised is true, if so pass
> message
> > > to account 2, otherwise: search message for the DB stored UUID, mark the
> > > sender as authorised if found, otherwise re-send 'Confirm you're not
> spam'
> > > with the UUID in message.
> > > -Matt
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > On legitimate addresses:
> > > > In the past I've seen many legitimate people provide fake 'reply to'
> > > > addresses for newsgroups.  And I've seen alot of spam using real
> > > > domains,  but not theirs.  If you're looking to filter out x% of spam
> > > > and don't mind  losing y% of newsgroup/mailing list mail, you're fine.
> > > > On testing validity:
> > > > You'll also need to recognise that ping tests wont be a good test for
> a
> > > >  domain, as some firewalls discard packets on this port.  A website
> > > > wont be  a good test for a domain either, as some mail servers don't
> > > > have a related  web address (the University I attend has a
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] address  format).  Checking the ip resolution
> of
> > > > the domain may have to be good  enough.
> > > > Red herring:
> > > > Maybe try to communicate with their SMTP server.  I think I recall
> some
> > > >  way of testing whether a user existed on the SMTP server, but I doubt
> > > > it  exists anymore (otherwise spammers would use it to find more
> > > > accounts). Other:
> > > > Nice idea though.  I've thought of similar things, such as having a
> > > > multitude of addresses, one for every use (one for CFAussie, one for a
> > > > particular client, one for a particular project, etc.).  When I start
> > > > getting spam on one address, send out an email to the relevant
> > > > newsgroup/contacts who I use the address for then close it down and
> > > > replace it with a new one.  The contacts have been informed, so when
> > > > they  accidently send to the old address they should realise, or they
> > > > can  contact via phone.
> > > > -Matt
> > > >
> > > >> I'm at a point now, where i'm about to go postal and the mention of
> > > >> Viagra or Mortgage Loans via the net.
> > > >>
> > > >> But..
> > > >>
> > > >> I heard on the radio this morning, some QUT propella-head has
> designed
> > > >> a "Spam firewall". Basically what it does is it verifies the actual
> > > >> domain of an email address, and if it comes back as unknown host,
> > > >> *spam*.
> > > >>
> > > >> Got me thinking, in that what if you had two accounts. Primary is
> what
> > > >> you give out, its the one you can feed out to
> > > >> lists/forums/pornographic web forums...err..um..websites...... and so
> > > >> on. CFPOP will check that email once every X minutes, cycle through a
> > > >> db and find which "domains" aren't inside it and do a ping/pong test
> > > >> on the domain itself. If it passes, it redirects the mail to your
> > > >> "secret" secondary account for you to download anywhere anyhow.
> > > >>
> > > >> Then once a week, you can log into the primary catchment area and see
> > > >> the "undecided" emails aswell as the "spam" ones, to make sure
> > > >> everythings cooking with gas.
> > > >>
> > > >> Whats your thoughts on such a concept? Its pretty basic and its flaw
> > > >> so far is that it could take up to 5-20mins for your email to come
> > > >> through on first time callers.
> > > >>
> > > >> Regards
> > > >> Scott Barnes
> > > >> CodeMonkey For Hire.
> > > >> -
> > > >> http://www.mossyblog.com
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
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