I'm not trying to start a flame war here, however Robin's sentiments seem as
heartfelt as a statement supporting the union movement might be from Mark
Latham. At the end of the day, what works best will be used, what is poorly
implemented may well fall by the wayside. 

We all waved goodbye to Netscape during version four and hailed IE. Now it
seems the opposite is happening in the groundswell.

The gay implementation of CF's CFMAIL tag is one example of many! In fact
I'm still waiting to use the parameters that my tag libraries boast about!
Bar-humbug! Surely there's a work experience kid in there somewhere with a
couple of minutes to write the forty lines of code to make a poor excuse for
an e-mail tag great.

MM fudged the 6.0 release of it's product. If 6.2 or 7 aren't awesome from
day one... it's open season in open source land... 

Bloody design company! Good one micromoodia!

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robin
Hilliard
Sent: Friday, 24 September 2004 5:40 PM
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Subject: [cfaussie] Re: CFML Processors and Stand Alone Development Was (Re:
Jeremy Allaire on ASP)

M@ Bourke wrote:
 > it would be good to see links to diff cf servers on cfug.org.au
 > instead of just macromedia advertising.

Well, they're still looking for people to contribute to the CFUG site if 
you're offering.  It's not going to be a very long list of CF clones at 
present.

I also wouldn't hold my breath for a lot of other CF clones to come out, 
or at least any that were reasonably useful.  The initial development of 
CFMX was one of the biggest development projects in Allaire/Macromedia 
history, and a lot of very clever people were on the team.

Sure you can knock up a lot of the basic tags very quickly, but without 
the more complex tags you may as well be using jsp.

BTW, in an earlier post you were talking about 9k for a ColdFusion 
server - assume you were talking about Enterprise (which is a bit more). 
  If that's your baseline then there is a stripped down version of 
ColdFusion - i.e. Standard. Last week we sold one to a client for $1650 
inc - I wouldn't call that steep for an application server.

Forgive me but I just don't understand the rush to distance ourselves 
from Macromedia. ColdFusion is a great product and a lot of good people 
have worked hard to make it what it is. New Atlanta and others have 
every right to build clones, but they don't automatically win my loyalty.

Cheers,

Robin
http://www.rocketboots.com.au

This post brought to you by "Friday", the day you have when you've got a 
hard earned thirst. Brilliant!

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