Title: RE: [cfaussie] Crystal and CF thread

Hi Tim,

Thanks for your input on this thread appreciate it :)

I am aware and currently have Blackstone installed and am intimate with CFDOCUMENT Tag .. :)

At this point my task isn't to seek a "Reporting Technology", in that my actual task is to get familiar with CFMX and Crystal Reports 10.0 and how well they work together. So my originating thread was to find/gather a community perspective on how they got it working and hopefully leveridge folks hard sweat/tears in getting it working. Kind of asking them for the cheat codes on the entire game if you will.

I would also like to point out, that while CFDOCUMENT tag will be a great asset to CFMX, one I think will be used a great deal there are still (from what I can see in my R&D at present) quite a lot of people using products like Crystal Reports or even a FOP solution.

To me there still needs to be a level of support for these product in that if someone down the track asks that dreaded question "How do I get Crystal Reports working with CFMX" one would hope that the new *cough* Macromedia Knowledge base will have information pertaining to that very subject. As lets face it, if a CFMX developer were in charge we would all have a FLEX UI, CFMX backend and CFMX based Reporting solution..oh and everyone would use FireFox and run it on 1900x1200 screens. :)



Regards
Scott Barnes
http://www.mossyblog.com
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tim Buntel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, 9 December 2004 1:16 AM
> To: CFAussie Mailing List
> Subject: [cfaussie] Crystal and CF thread
>
> Hi All -
>
> For obvious reasons that thread caught my attention... :) 
>
> There certainly is an alternative to Crystal for ColdFusion
> developers...reporting in Blackstone.
>
> Scott, I just wanted to be sure that you were aware of the
> difference between the CFDOCUMENT feature and the structured
> business reporting feature planned for Blackstone. 
> CFDOCUMENT is a way to transform HTML/CFML content into
> printable/portable format (PFD or FlashPaper) with a single
> tag.  Reporting is a full featured banded reporting
> implementation with full support for subreports, charts and
> graphs, multiple output formats, wizards and more; in short,
> quite similar to a Crystal or Report Mill or what have you. 
> See
> http://macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/blackstone/features/
> reporting/
> for more details.  They're both exciting and powerful
> features, but quite different.
>
> While I cannot comment on pricing, editions, release dates,
> or any such information here, you may want to get the
> Blackstone beta and try out our reporting before sinking the
> many thousands of dollars needed to just get started with
> most other third-party reporting solutions.  Best of all,
> this solution will fit most seamlessly into your CF
> application architecture.  You use the same CFML functions,
> UDF's and expressions that you already know, you have full
> access to all CF application variables within a report, you
> can use ColdFusion queries to create exactly the data needed
> for a dynamic report or pull data from anything ColdFusion
> can access including UDFs, CFCs, web services, XML, databases, etc.
>
> We're bringing you integrated business reporting in CF;
> high-quality, structured reports fully integrated into web
> applications providing your users with well formatted data
> that is easy to understand, print, and email.  That, I can
> assure you, is anything but difficult.
>
> As an aside, I'll be in Sydney for MXDU - I'll be speaking in
> the Keynote and also presenting a session on just this topic.
>  Come to the conference and I'll tell you much much more! 
> http://www.mxdu.com
>
> Tim Buntel
> Sr. Product Manager
> Macromedia ColdFusion Server
>
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