[cfaussie] Re: Blackstone (Beta) Example Apps

[SBarnes]

Title: RE: [cfaussie] Re: Blackstone (Beta) Example Apps

LMAO

 

Yeah its like that, while I know what Seans talking about, it does feel like a monty python skit waiting to unfold - beta, there is no beta, of course if the beta were to exist we could talk about the beta that really doesn't exist which would ential it does exist but not in the sense of real existance - ya follow me good, now if we were to bring information about the existance of the beta that does not by the way exist, then clearly we cannot discuss features of the technology in the beta that does not exist. So how does one differentiate between features that do exist in the beta that doesn't exist because technically those features don't exist.

 

:)

 

Scott

 

 

 

 

 

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From: Tom MacKean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, 21 December 2004 2:40 PM
To: CFAussie Mailing List
Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Blackstone (Beta) Example Apps

This beta looks like a lot of trouble. Glad I bought VHS.

 

Tom

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, 21 December 2004 2:48 PM
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Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Blackstone (Beta) Example Apps

First rule of beta,

THERE IS NO BETA.

Second rule of beta,

THERE IS NO BETA.

(for the "fight club" fans)

I've posted many a thread/topic on how silly the Blackstone & NDA are present. In there terms/conditions of all Macromedia beta tests your not even allowed to admit you know of the beta or features within the beta itself. Furthermore you cannot discuss problems, proposed price models, technology etc of a beta unless its within the BETA forum's) themselves.

If you do any of the above, you basically breech your NDA. NDA police come swarming in through your office, slap you around with a trout and make you confess / repent your sins.

Its pretty clear in that regard, in that you may know what's going on, you could probably explain the information to your stake holders (as you kind of take onboard the NDA on behalf of your company) but you aren't supposed to publicly admit any information about it *cough* Mr Tilbrook *cough*.

That being said and done, its total crap with Blackstone as there is enough public information now online that kind of dilutes the whole BETA NDA, as its now effectively public knowledge that for instance Blackstone as CFDOCUMENT tag. Yet discussion of it is still considered taboo via other mediums then the forum.

Like I said, its as if you swear in front of your child, then one day when he/she swears you smack them? Who is at fault the child or you for not knowing better.

I'd personally consider the NDA breeched world-wide and lets get some healthy discussion going on about the product in an open forum(s). That won't happen of course as legally I'm unsure, even though the Blackstone taboo word is public, I'd still play it safe and assume it's a bad word to say period.

Scott.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gary Menzel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, 21 December 2004 12:16 PM
> To: CFAussie Mailing List
> Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Blackstone (Beta) Example Apps
>
> However, saying "the NDA prevents you from saying you are
> part of the beta program" almost implies that you are (in the
> sense that you must have read the terms and conditions that
> you agreed to when you got signed up and you are then saying
> something that the NDA implicitly says you aren't allowed to
> say).  Assuming that is what the NDA says.
>
> Or even saying things like "Why not post on the mailing lists
> for the beta progam" almost implies a similar thing (i.e. how
> do you know there are lists if you are not part of the beta
> program).  Assuming there are such lists.
>
> Of course, this is all speculation, as I am not saying if I
> am part of the Blackstone beta program or not.
>
> Gary
>
>
>
> On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 15:33:36 -0800, Sean Corfield
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 10:12:19 +1100, M@ Bourke
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > are people allowed to mention they are part of the beta ?
> >
> > Technically I believe the NDA prevents you from saying you
> are part of the beta.
> >
> > I got around that at the Fusebox 2004 conference by asking the
> > audience to raise their hand if they were not part of the
> beta program
> > ;)
> >
> > Of course, people who were on the beta could still raise
> their hands
> > and lie but mostly people were honest. And it got a lot of
> laughter :)
> > --
> > Sean A Corfield -- http://www.corfield.org/ Team Fusebox --
> > http://www.fusebox.org/ Breeze Me! --
> http://www.corfield.org/breezeme
> >
> > "If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive."
> > -- Margaret Atwood
> >
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