can anything be done to ensure that Mark's position doesn't get upset? Adobe doesn't even *think* of doing something silly?
as the MACR server products manager, he understands the market, he certainly understands the products and he is part of the developer community (who understands us) what sort of leverage can the developer community have in situations like this? just a quick thought... barry.b (or is it like an old Skyhooks song: "whatever happened to the revolution...they all got stoned and it drifted away...") > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Peter > Tilbrook > Sent: Wednesday, 20 April 2005 8:16 PM > To: CFAussie Mailing List > Subject: [cfaussie] Re: A sincere apology to the AusPac MM team - Mark > (Blair) in particular > > > Thanks Scotty, I'm not has hard-nosed as you yet, been in > this job too long > perhaps. > > Am off to install SQL Server - always a joyful experience! > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of Scott Barnes > Sent: Wednesday, 20 April 2005 7:46 PM > To: CFAussie Mailing List > Subject: [cfaussie] Re: A sincere apology to the AusPac MM team - Mark > (Blair) in particular > > Aye, fair enough i think everyone kind of gave you a fairly > heavy blooded > nose for it, and i'm sure the MM team didn't give two hoots > in the end. heh. > > it was more about principal then anything else. Anyway, at > least you had the > courage to admit it was an oversight, apologise publically instead of > cowering like many who've stepped over the line in a public > forum have done. > > I for one am stubborn and will not cave until the day i die, > even if i am > wrong...oh and i am wrong so many times then i care to admit... :) > > Persistance is the key, keep at it and eventually you'll get > a break if > you're on a downer. > > Scott. > > > On 4/20/05, Peter Tilbrook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It all happened so quickly, just like the > Macromedia/Allaire takeover > > back in 2002. > > > > But no real defence and apologies to Mark Blair (MM Server Product > > Manager) and his team. > > > > It is frustrating when really talented people are the last > to know of > > decisions made without their knowledge that affect their livelihood. > > > > The subject line of "Bye bye Mark and co" should be considered as a > > frustrated response to a re-run of the Allaire/Macromedia takeover > > that actually turned out to be a very good move. > > > > I sincerely apologise to Mark Blair and his fellow MM AusPac staff > members. > > Your team has bolstered the Macromedia name in this region > like no-one > > else > > - and made MXDU the premier conference. > > > > Like many of the CFAussie subscribers, 10 years seems like > yesterday > > (for CFML development), but the Allaire/MM takeover seemed to have > > only just settled down. And MM have made such great strides > we should > > all feel foolish about the doubts, at least for ColdFusion, > we had back > then. > > > > Mark (Blair) and his team have bolstered to no small degree > the use of > > ColdFusion in Australia and must be congratulated. I > apologise if my > > callous description of their contribution was considered as such. > > Pretty stupid really and I answer the charge alone. > > > > In the ACT (Australian Capital Territory, ie Canberra) as > far as I can > > see the use of CFML compared to ASP/ASP.NET is a big worry. It is > > definitely losing ground despite CFMX 7 being the best solution. > > > > We have so many talented developers using CFML in Australia (in > > Brisbane in > > particlular) it just get's frustrating that the jobs are 1000 klms > > from where you live - or more... > > > > Some of my favourite developers include Queenslanders like Darren > > Tracey and Scott Barnes, Kay at PerthWeb (Western Australia), Mike > > Kear in NSW (Windsor), and Steve Collins and Ivan in the ACT. > > > > Darren (Tracey) is more famous for hosting the best ColdFusion User > > Group meetings in Australia and is a hard act to follow. > > > > 10 years for me and might be time to give it all away. I > won't of course. > > > > Peter Tilbrook > > PO Box 2247 > > Queanbeyan, NSW, 2620 > > AUSTRALIA > > > > WWW 1: http://www.coldgen.com/ > > WWW 2: http://www.actcfug.com/ > > Telephone: +61-2-6284-2727 > > E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > --- > > You are currently subscribed to cfaussie as: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] To > > unsubscribe send a blank email to > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Aussie Macromedia Developers: http://lists.daemon.com.au/ > > > > > -- > Regards, > Scott Barnes > http://www.mossyblog.com > http://www.flexcoder.com (Coming Soon) > > --- > You are currently subscribed to cfaussie as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To > unsubscribe send a blank email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Aussie Macromedia Developers: http://lists.daemon.com.au/ > > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to cfaussie as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Aussie Macromedia Developers: http://lists.daemon.com.au/ > --- You are currently subscribed to cfaussie as: [email protected] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aussie Macromedia Developers: http://lists.daemon.com.au/
