I must confess after checking the latest figures, you are correct based
on what I proposed using retail pricing.

I live opposite the right people ;-)

Chris

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Hi Chris,

I hope you are talking about hosting one client per box not a shared
hosting box, cause if you host more than one then you need SPLA lic.
MS sql2k would cost ~$300+/month and you wouldnt really wanna put SQL
and IIS one the same box either.

and your bandwidth is only 2G, that wouldnt be enough for a shared
hostng env..

if you take all this into consideration.. then yes Kim would be correct
about the 4 figure sum...:)

cheers
Joel

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Chris
Sent: Thursday, 2 June 2005 11:52 AM
To: CFAussie Mailing List
Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Australian Coldfusion Hosting




I wouldn't trust Ben's list, it's forever out of date as the ISP's have
to update it themselves, there's a reference to a list of Australian CF
ISP's that was posted on CFAussie on a couple of occasions recently.

crystaltech/hostmysite plans are mighty attractive if you don't mind the
latency or legal(eg spam/<13/terrorism) ramifications of having a server
in the US.
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Kym said,
"Just think of the cost of a server, the cost to put it in a datacentre
with an Internet connection and then add the cost of the software
licenses, you end up with a 4 figure sum _per month_ to cover. To get
that back at $90 per annum means an awful lot of sites on one
machine......."

As far as setting up your own box...

I somewhat agree, but you have to be smart with your hardware. Actually
you can buy and set up a co-lo box in Australia for quite a lot less
than you think. My quick sums put it at around $600/month + co-lo
charges = ~$800/month including onsite backup and a whole bunch of other
features. (including 1RU
server/win2003/mailenable/serv-u/sql2k/backup/2G bandwidth/nod32
anti-virus). (That's in the first year, year two is a lot less
~$250/month)

If you use the ISV windows/sql licencing and lease the box even less,
maybe even aroudn $500/month. So $800/month  = two of my clients per
month... My other advice "Value added services"

Regards,
Christopher Dawes
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joel
Nath
Sent: Thursday, 2 June 2005 10:58 AM
To: CFAussie Mailing List
Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Australian Coldfusion Hosting / Ben Forta App.

Hi,

The servers seem to be loacted at The Planet data center.
http://theplanet.com/

one of the best DC's in US.

the cost of running a server in US is far cheaper than in Aus .eg Win
Std SPLA lic @ USD $10/month compared to AU$40-50/month in Aus

hence you get alot cheaper pricing than you would see in Aus

it doesnt always mean the webhost provides a bad servce just because the
price is low..:)


cheers
Joel

.ps
DC's also offer discounted CF and SQL servers.. something you wont get
here in Aus.

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Sent: Thursday, 2 June 2005 10:24 AM
To: CFAussie Mailing List
Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Australian Coldfusion Hosting / Ben Forta App.


Hi Gareth,

you wrote:
> http://www.forta.com/cf/isp/
>
> If you do a search on Australian providers that offer Coldfusion 7 >
> there
are two that when you go onto there website seem to stand out a bit.
National Connect and Hosting Fuse.
>
> Both offering Cf7 hosting from as little as $90 a year!.
>
> My question is... how legit are these service providers? are they able

> to
provide this service at such a price? how reliable would they be? If I
part with my $90 will I never see anything in return?
>
> Does anyone know anything about either of these providers? are they
running it from a 256/64k ADSL connection?

I will be diplomatic about my comments about these companies as I am in
the same business, hosting, if at a different level, but they are both
Australian companies and both host out of Texas, USA, if traceroutes
mean anything, so they are definitely not on ADSL pipes :-)  The first,
MationalConnect, ends up at http://sharedssl.info/ from the traceroute,
and if you go to that link it looks interesting...........

Just think of the cost of a server, the cost to put it in a datacentre
with an Internet connection and then add the cost of the software
licenses, you end up with a 4 figure sum _per month_ to cover. To get
that back at $90 per annum means an awful lot of sites on one
machine.......


HTH,

Kym K

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