Nice read Robin...

Keep forgetting you worked at Zivo! hehe...I remember Zivo aswell,
mainly because they where praised by Bill Gates (which every aust web
agency i knew of went...bah..lucky bastards.. that i always wanted to
work for them as i thought that was the "big time") (hehe i once went
for an interview at their brisbane office clemenger or whatever it
was, it was for an ASP role..i had no idea how to code in ASP but
thought i could sell them on coldfusion and thus spent the whole
interview pitching CFML...can't imagine why never got the role...)

See thats the kinda stories i was hoping for, come on kiddies, share
your CF+ME history without a pissing contest implemented...

[EMAIL PROTECTED] always you need to cut the dosage down on the medication 
hehehe.



On 7/6/05, Robin Hilliard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Kym Kovan wrote:
> 
> > What I do
> > remember well is the Spectra course with Ben Forta sitting in, that was
> > fun :-)
> 
> The first CF thing I went to was the launch of CF 2 at Darling Harbour,
> which was also Nick McNaughton's first gig as Allaire Asia/Pacific.  I
> was at Andersen Consulting working for Westpac at the time, and CF was
> on the cards for the Westpac Internet banking site (Westpac did use CF
> for a little while but on a later project).  It was funny because Nick
> had arranged free passes to Segaworld for all attendees, and I know of
> several friends of developers who developed a sudden "interest" in web
> development that lasted for about 40 minutes.  I can remember Jeremy and
> Nick racing each other at Segaworld and Jeremy looking wryly amused :-)
> 
> Shortly afterwards we arranged to have John Desborough, the author of
> QUE's "Using ColdFusion 2.0" give three days of training back at the
> North Sydney office.  He ran out of stuff to talk about after the first
> day and spent the rest of the time telling us stories about junkets with
> oil executives in Texas.
> 
> I remember being only so-so impressed with CF at the time - coming from
> C and VB it was hard to love a language that only had includes as a way
> to reuse code (I remember at a later date hearing of custom tags coming
> out and thinking that was what had been needed).  We eventually went
> with ASP, but we had to go to Microsoft's office in Epping and sit there
> while they burned a CD of IIS 1.0 and ASP - this was from the gold
> master candidate :-)
> 
> I didn't encounter CF again until 1999 when I was at ZIVO working as
> technical lead on the BHP Steel project and we went to a Spectra
> presentation by Charles Teague - we were really excited.  Charles and
> Libby (then product manager for Spectra) came over to ZIVO for coffee,
> and as it turned out a pre-qualifying job interview - Allaire/Macromedia
> later hired Lucas Sherwood (Firmware), Pete Farland (who went on to
> co-author Flash Remoting) and me, all people Charles and Libby met on
> that tour.
> 
> The Spectra training was great - it started with an act of incredible
> instructional courage when Geoff started delivering the course to
> Charles Teague with Ben Forta heckling from the back :-)  Charles
> eventually took over, more out of impatience with the course material,
> and we all continued the training with Charles up front, I think the
> only time he taught the Spectra course.  I discovered that Ben Forta was
> a big Hitch-hikers fan at lunch, and met Kym, Fiona and I think Justin
> at Ben's talk at the CFUG that night on WAP (reminds me of a slogan the
> RocketBooters thought up recently "iMode - Colour WAP" :-).
> 
> Ah... good times.  And by the way, I have THE LAST CF5 quick-reference
> tshirt to give away as a door prize at the Sydney anniversary meeting,
> so you better RSVP soon.
> 
> Cheers,
> Robin
> 
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