Hello Brett,

Coincidentally, we've come up with two tables for logging 
A 'session' table and an 'activity' table. Although we havent fully
identified the fields yet.

Security table may have following fields

SECURITY_SESSION_ID, 
APPLICATION_NAME,
IP_ADDRESS,
FLASH_VERSION, 
USER_AGENT, 
SCREEN_SIZE, 
AVAILABLE_SCREEN_SIZE, 
BROWSER_ALLOWS_COOKIES, 
CPU_CLASS 

Activity/Event table as follows

SECURITY_SESSION_ID, (FK)
EVENT_NAME, 
EVENT_VALUE, 
URL


What is a reliable source/method of getting SESSION ID's.

 
Warm Regards,
Sameer S. Kekade.
http://cfsameer.blogspot.com

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Sameer,

Given you are talking about different applications aren't they using 
different databases? If they happen to be sharing a database then you 
have already identified the differentiator - Application Name.

And I agree with Steve on this... Logging to the database provides a lot

more flexibility than trying to extract session information from a web 
log. I actually use two tables for logging - a 'session' table and an 
'activity' table, where the activity table holds the sessionId as a 
foreign key. It's an overhead but it makes reporting *so* easy...

Brett
B)


Sameer Kekade wrote:
> Barry,
> 
> For a single IP address 10.X.X.X
> 
> multiple applications each with one single session
> ---> APPLICATION A - 86301584841121037562417(sessionID)
> ---> The user ctrl+N to a new IE browser window
> ---> APPLICATION B - 86301584841121037562417(sessionID) <--- Gets the
> same session ID although the application is different
> 
> 
> multiple applications each with multiple sessions
> ---> APPLICATION A - 86301584841121037562417(sessionID)
> ---> The user ctrl+N to a new IE browser window
> ---> APPLICATION B - 86301584841121037562417(sessionID) <--- Gets the
> same session ID although the application is different
> ---> The user ctrl+N to a new IE browser window
> ---> APPLICATION C - 86301584841121037562417(sessionID) <--- Gets the
> same session ID although the application is different
> 
> ---> Different browser instance
> ---> APPLICATION B - 78D437A3C667F379D08B48EED194FD7B(sessionID)
> ---> The user ctrl+N to a new IE browser window
> ---> APPLICATION A - 78D437A3C667F379D08B48EED194FD7B(sessionID) <---
> Gets the same session ID although the application is different
> 
> The point here,
> its difficult to track what this user is doing unless we could 
> track/log
> 
> - IP Address
> - Session ID
> - Application name
> 
> Warm Regards,
> Sameer S. Kekade.
> http://cfsameer.blogspot.com
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barry 
> Beattie
> Sent: Monday, 11 July 2005 11:20 AM
> To: CFAussie Mailing List
> Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Session tracking / User activity monitoring
> 
> 
> can you just clarify:
> 
> for each user:
> 
> multiple applications each with one single session
> 
> or
> 
> multiple applications each with multiple sessions (each session is a 
> diff browser instance)
> 
> thanx
> barry.b
> 
> 
> 
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Sameer
>>Kekade
>>Sent: Monday, 11 July 2005 11:18 AM
>>To: CFAussie Mailing List
>>Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Session tracking / User activity monitoring
>>
>>
>>Yes they do log in.
>>
>>And there may be a situation where our staff members have 3-4 
>>different application/session instances on the same machine.
>>
>>In that case, logging browser and IP address isnt enough. Maybe a
>>combination of application name, IP, sessionID would make sense.
>>
>>Warm Regards,
>>Sameer S. Kekade.
>>http://cfsameer.blogspot.com
>>
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>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chad
>>Renando
>>Sent: Monday, 11 July 2005 11:04 AM
>>To: CFAussie Mailing List
>>Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Session tracking / User activity monitoring
>>
>>
>>Are they logging in?  I've never done it for a straight Internet site,
> 
> 
>>Webtrnds was eno9ugh.  But for a log-in situation, I typically grab
>>the user's browser and IP and what page they hit and when.  I
>>then report it
>>back to the user as a way for them to ensure their password has not
>>gotten away from them, as well as let managers understand the activity
>>of their staff within the application.
>>
>>Chad
>>who takes 1 suger in his coffee, thanks you very much
>>
>>On 7/11/05, Sameer Kekade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>>Hey Guys,
>>>
>>>I need some pointers on how session tracking/ user activity
>>
>>monitoring
>>
>>
>>>is done like they have in FarCry.
>>>
>>>We need to track the user-activities within our website like
>>>- The path they take
>>>- Sections they visit
>>>- Current active users on the website
>>>
>>>I thought of logging it onto a csv log file but then its
>>
>>difficult to
>>
>>>manage them.
>>>
>>>Another option would be logging these activities onto a database 
>>>table. Has anybody done something like this before?
>>>
>>>Thanks in advance
>>>
>>>Regards,
>>>Sameer S. Kekade.
>>>http://cfsameer.blogspot.com
>>>
>>>
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