Problem here is you will not learn good techniques of you just stick to your
copy and paste.





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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: CFAussie Mailing List <[email protected]>
CC: cf Aussie List <[email protected]>
Sent: Thu Dec 22 18:20:50 2005
Subject: [cfaussie] Re: [cfajax] Re: Trying to get CFAjax to run

Actually, I'm a bit of a square...

>From my perspective, there's a couple of ways to come at this thing. 
One is to get all properly trained, learn your basic computer theory
first, such as the fine art of Basic, Octal, and Object Orientated
programming through fine academic endeavors.  Discover everything from
the latest networking techniques to the real reason the internet
started and exists today outside of Google.  There is no spoon.

The other is to have a boss's / client's / mother's cousin's pet cat's
web site that needs to be dynamic yesterday and copy, paste and hack
at someone else's code and refer to online resources like
www.easycfm.com as if they are physical locations on God's green earth
until your project does what you want.

Both approaches get you there, and folk from both sides end up being
haters and noob-callers.  I am a self-taught Commodore 64 hacker
residing in the latter group stirring the proverbial white porcelain
pot in both.

Specific to "Ajax" (quotes due to reference to the latest catch phrase
for a fancy name for steroid-engorged "DHTML"), and the blessing of
CFAjax in particular, more than anything I have learned how to debug
JavaScript and CFCs.  I have never opened the engine stuff apart from
morbid curiosity.  In time, I may need to work my copy-and-paste hack
into modifying something... but with this fine level of support and
others doing it for me, maybe not.

Thanks to commercial competition and the pressures of capitalism, I
may get through this life without ever having to program my own
browser or build my own electric toothbrush.  Sure, sometimes you have
to re-create the thing in an effort to learn how to get where you want
to go, but it is a last resort.  Someone else builds the better
toothbrush so I have more time to build a better candy making machine
so some else has time to... and so we collectively build the Tower of
Babel until we can no longer understand what we are talking about.

Personally, my use of Ajax is an abhorrent aberration, a popped pimple
on the face of best-practice, as I spew large chunks of HTML back and
forth on a single page multiple times in a highly abstracted insult to
Mr. Ben Forta and MVC frameworks everywhere...

Not that anyone got down this far...  Sorry, woke up on the wrong side
of the floor this morning... no... really.

Chad
who just fulfilled his quarterly quota for "going off" at no one
inparticular for no particular reason



On 12/23/05, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  No a wheel is a wheel, the physics of all wheels are the same.
>
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Sent: Thu Dec 22 15:46:48 2005
Subject: RE: [cfajax] Re: Trying to get CFAjax to run

Until the wheel is round enough? One person's wheel is another's bumpy ride



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
James Holmes
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 9:22 AM
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Subject: Re: [cfajax] Re: Trying to get CFAjax to run



That's the second CFAJAX replacement to come out this week. How many times
does the wheel need to be reinvented?

On 12/22/05, Ron Mast < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I had similar issues with installing and running CFAjax.


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