Yeah, I'm sold on OO.  I've encountered too many setbacks doing things
procedurally (even with trying to keep things modular).  Mainly maintenance
and extensibility issues.

It's going to be a long road ahead, but I'm pretty sure it'll be worth it.

Cheers,
Sam


-----Original Message-----
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Of Nando
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 12:49 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [CFCDev] CFC Cohesion

Sam,

It's hard to say anything in general. Every situation is unique. And it will
most likely develop uniquely as you continue to work with it. What i do
know, by now, is that using object oriented programming is really cool. It
can be a very effective way to find simple solutions to complex application
problems. But the only way i've been able to learn is to do it. And i'm
still learning, every day.

So it really depends on what this application is supposed to do, beyond the
financial calculations. I stared at my first attempt at a model for weeks.
Asked lots of questions, understood and didn't understand the answers, built
it all back-assed a few times over. And now ... i think i have something
pretty cool.

You can do what you know how to do today just fine procedurally. So it may
look like a bit of an unneeded luxury to start using cfc's and try to work
out a model that you can begin with. Why bother? But chances are 6 or 8
months from now if you jump in and keep working with it, you'll be doing
things with OO without breaking a sweat that you'd stare at for hours or
days and not come up with a solution using a procedural approach. And yes,
even in ColdFusion.

:) Nando

-----Original Message-----
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Behalf Of Sam Clement
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 5:47 PM
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Subject: RE: [CFCDev] CFC Cohesion


So the component would have an init() function that would process all
calculations that have other calculations depend on them?

Since the real app has around 30 calculations (and growing!) with some
fairly complex relationships, this might create some unnecessary(?)
overhead.

Anyway, from what you say, it sounds like it's okay practice to dump them
all in one CFC and then just have the component call its own methods as
needed for each calculation - I think... :)

Cheers,

Sam

-----Original Message-----
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Of Nando
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 10:18 AM
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Subject: RE: [CFCDev] CFC Cohesion

I'm pretty much a beginner myself, but as a general plan, i would do
calculation A on the init, store it in the variables scope, and then access
result A for functions B, C, D and E, if that makes sense. Store result B in
variables scope and use it for C, etc.

>From what you describe, it seems you just need to make sure that the 
>obj is
initialized to the point where it can handle any of those functions. It
doesn't seem to me like you'd need to make separate objects, necessarily, to
have this FinancialObj be cohesive, it does financial calculations.


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 4:55 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [CFCDev] CFC Cohesion


I'm working on a small financial site that uses a lot of financial formulae
(duh).  I'm also an OO newbie and trying to get up to speed on the
methodology with this project (using machii).

Since a lot of the financial formulae are dependent upon each other, one of
the troubles I'm having is with the separation of the business logic into
small, 'do one thing well' type pieces.

For example, if there are 5 calculations that need to be made: A, B, C, D
and E:

A is a simple calculation on values stored in the db B uses A values to make
its calculation C uses A and B values, and the previous date's value of C
for its calculation Etc.

With this set up I'm having difficulty creating cohesive objects.  There
seems too much dependency between each calculation to really separate them.
Separating them into individual components just seems to create a string of
dependent objects.

Perhaps I should be creating "parent" objects that tie these smaller
calculation objects together?

Any advice appreciated.

Cheers,

Sam

________________________________

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ABOVE Studios
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Trinidad + Tobago - West Indies
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