Agreed.
As of late I simply abuse the concept of a manager. In that, I'll bolt everything inside a manager when prototyping the application, once that's squared away and if needed, I'll then chop the manager up into itty bitty pieces and then maybe apply some DAO/DG/Cache etc.
The way I figure it, is at various levels (how deep you want to go) you simply ask manager(s) for information, how they get it is their business and its like having API's within API's.
I'm over the whole pattern zen masterness :) (it was fun to learn but tedious to implement).
Scott
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tim Van Der Hulst
> Sent: Friday, 28 January 2005 8:58 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [CFCDev] OT: superplatform vision
>
> hmm give this man a candy bar...
>
> http://jroller.com/page/nweber/20050121#my_superplatform_vision
>
> hehe this quote is classic...
>
> "The current situation for developing a web application is to
> glue a web framework like Struts together with an ORM and
> then write huge amounts of trivial but custom code to provide
> a UI and data perisistence. It might be fun the first one or
> two times because learning something new and then getting
> good at it is fun. But after that, it just becomes fairly
> mindless, tedious, slow grunt work."
>
> ps not trying to stir anyone up...
>
> Just that I wrestled for months with the topic of handcoding
> trivial SQL, dealing with persistance etc. I largely solved
> this via a table based CFC DAO to programatically
> create/cache queries. Now i'm facing up to the other dilema
> which is UI development and the huge amount of time I spend
> writing trivial forms and custom html/css/_javascript_. yes i'm
> familier with blackstone, plum, etc but not satisfied. I'm
> actually seriously thinking of moving to asp.net simply
> because of Visual Studio. Lol sad huh
>
>
> TiM
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