It is worth noting that if you are on shared hosting anything you put
into the Application scope can be viewed by the other sites on that
host. So if you put POP3 details, datasource authentication details in
the application scope you are essentially revealing this to everyone on
your host. 

To view the application scope of all the hosted sites on your server,
remove the "name" parameter from your <cfapplication> tag and then
<cfdump var="#application#">

However I am not sure you will be able to reset the values, I haven't
tried ... I am not the malicious type.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 13 May 2005 11:11
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: SPAM-LOW: RE: [CFCDev] Singleton / Factory request

I think maybe some mis-communication here.

>i don't think there's much of any reason to create an object and
place it in application scope unless you make it a singleton that
persists until the application scope times out

I agree.


>you do need to lock that code block as shown for the reason stated if 
>you
want to guarentee that one and
only one instance of that object can exist

I was trying to make the point that because you are making a variable in
app scope, there will only ever be one, even without the lock.

request 1
        causes appstart to run
        creates application.myobj

request 2
        happens before request 1 is finished initialising the app,
causes appstart to run
        creates application.myobj, overwriting the one created by
request 1

request 3
        app is initialised, appstart not run.


application.myobj is still a singleton




-----Original Message-----
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Behalf Of Nando
Sent: 13 May 2005 10:53
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Subject: RE: SPAM-LOW: RE: [CFCDev] Singleton / Factory request


Kerry, i don't think there's much of any reason to create an object and
place it in application scope unless you make it a singleton that
persists until the application scope times out. At least i can't think
of one.

The MM docs say that if you create an object in Application.cfc's
onApplicationStart() method (CFMX7) and place it in application scope,
you'll get a singleton. The underlying machinery there will ensure that.
Ok, i believe them ...

If you need some functionality elsewhere in your application on
occasion, and also on "onAppStart" ... i'd put that in it's own method
and call that method from within onApplicationStart() to seperate ...
intelligently modularize the two things. How does that sound?

:) n

-----Original Message-----
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Behalf Of Kerry
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 11:07 AM
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Subject: RE: SPAM-LOW: RE: [CFCDev] Singleton / Factory request


but, if you are creating the object in app scope, and x number of
requests cause the appstart code to run, then each subsequent request
will overwrite the last one, so there will still only be one instance of
the object?

in saying that, I would do the lock because its nice and tidy.



-----Original Message-----
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Sent: 12 May 2005 21:11
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Subject: RE: SPAM-LOW: RE: [CFCDev] Singleton / Factory request


I'll contradict Peter here and say that yes you do need to lock that
code block as shown for the reason stated if you want to guarentee that
one and only one instance of that object can exist.

I assumed you were on MX7, because you referred to Application.cfc, but
i guess you meant Application.cfm

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 9:42 PM
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Peter H wrote:

> On the subject of locking, I'm using cf6.1 - do I still need to lock?

No, unless you are trying a to prevent a race condition.  The archives
have a lot about race conditions as well as a few articles on Macr.

Best,
.Peter

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