I guess your just wanting the activerecord part of Rails then.......if that's the case then, it's about time CF gets and ORM and that's probably a more attainable goal than the whole Rails shebang.
Marlon On 9/22/05, John Farrar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We can chat about 2 later... but if you generated Metadata with the objects > and built a forms generator then that could actually be nicely automated. I > will show you guys how later. That is where the "plug-in" comes in. There is > a very flexible friendly way to get that done. I will have to be the one to > do the coding since I know how... but that will be part of my duties for the > community. > > Point 3 is a nice point... we need to gather these concepts into major > categories for a vote... and start a site (which I would be glad to > sponsor). Ray has said he will do a list. > > Friendly URLs is a possibility... but that should be for doing a full > methodology. We can do that... or we can make a tool set to work also with > other methodologies. I am thinking where we can we should do both. > > I personally like much of what your saying. The OnTap thing isn't the way I > want to go. Someone else may want to use "some" of this stuff with Fusebox. > My suggestion is we consider both approaches. CFoR and reusable technology, > stuff that can be portable. (That is where the plug-ins come in. It lets you > generate CFoR versions or create plug-ins for other methodology.) > > John Farrar > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of Marlon Moyer > Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 4:31 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [CFCDev] Ruby on Rails for CF > > > On 9/22/05, John Farrar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The benefits are subjective... but I will tell you that there are several > > benefits that several CF developers have talked about at large. These > > benefits are connected and not stand alone benefits... but for those that > > have used it the difference is apparently the best thing to date for web > > development. > > > > 1. Active Records > 1a. The ability to generate a model from the database schema and the > ability to recognize changes on the fly without interaction from the > user and or cut/paste of updated code. > > > 2. Automated CRUD form generation > > Once you get past the wow factor, this really isn't all that great, > you end up recreating every template anyway. > > > 3. Automated Object creation/generation > This also includes events automatically called in objects, such as > when you 'destroy' and object, if a method exists inside the model > called 'before_destroy', it's automatically called. > > > 4. Round trip updates > > 5. Minimal manual coding (which is one of the beauties of CF, that's why > we > > use CFCs and Custom Tags... it's just taking things another level.) > > 6. Use of a domain specific language to handle object relationships > and validation such as: > > class order < ActiveRecord::Base > belongs_to :customer > has_many :line_item > > validates_associated :customer > validates_presence :shipping_address > end > > 7. Built in friendly urls: localhost/items/edit/15 > > 8. Conventions for a lot of common situations in web development > (form validation, success notifications, etc) > > 9. Limited sql needed. > > > I'm probably sounding like an onTap evangelist lately, but a some of > this stuff is already done in the onTap framework.... > > > > -- > Marlon > > "And I Sleep, and I dream of the person I might have been, and I'll be > free again > And I Speak, like someone who's been to the highest peaks, and back again > And I Swear, that my grass is greener than anyoness, until I believe again" > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > You are subscribed to cfcdev. 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