Thanks for that. Martin got across the points I was trying to make
(plus many more) much better than I could have.
Paul Kenney wrote, On 12/22/2006 1:31 AM:
Whenever I see someone talking about the need for mocks when unit
testsing, this essay by Martin Fowler comes to mind:
http://www.martinfowler.com/articles/mocksArentStubs.html
<http://www.martinfowler.com/articles/mocksArentStubs.html>
Read it and then ask yourself if its really mocks you need.
Paul
On 12/21/06, *Jeff D. Chastain* < [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
This is a cross-post with CF-Talk, but I figured this list is a
bit more cfc oriented. I am really trying to get into test driven
development as the benefits are fairly obvious after having done
development any other way. However, in terms of doing this with
ColdFusion, I am either not getting it or there is a lot of talk
going on regarding TDD, but not much in actual practice.
My biggest issue comes with object dependencies. Ideally, your
objects are as loosely coupled as possible, but it is simply not
possible to have an application full of completely disjoint
objects with no dependencies at all. One of the premises of unit
testing though is to test only the functionality of one individual
object or unit and not test all of its dependencies. Other
languages appear to handle this with mock objects which allow for
simulating and testing any object dependencies. However, the mock
object frameworks for Java and other languages simply don't port
to ColdFusion because of language construct differences. Without
a mock object framework, the only other option I see is to hand
create and maintain stub or mock objects, and this just does not
seem like a feasible practice in an application of any size.
So, how do you test ColdFusion objects when there are dependencies
involved?
Thanks.
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