Definitely right, it could be overkill. Wasn't looking at this for a
specific application though, just some generic methods / conventions.

btw, in the quick examples posted, running dao.saveRecord(this) *is*
passing the dao a bean, assuming that dao.saveRecord(...) is being
called from within the bean itself.


On Oct 2, 1:38 am, Alan Livie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Or pass a bean (or an ID for deleting maybe) to your DAO's methods.
>
> Not sure if a service layer AND managers would be overkill for your
> application. It depends on the size of it and how large you expect it
> to grow.
>
> Suppose it's nice to have maximum flexibility though.
>
> On Oct 2, 4:11 am, Greg Stevens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Thanks for the posts Brian and Tom. Definitely cleared up a bit for me
> > and also reinforced some of the ideas I have been having lately.
>
> > @Brian - I feel the same way as you about the extends and IS-A
> > relatonships. That is what got me thinking about injecting the DAO
> > into the bean and running something like dao.saveRecord(this).
>
> > @Tom - Thanks for the link, I will have to read it more thoroughly
> > later.
>
> > Right now I am leaning towards Tom thinking of a Service layer being
> > more in charge of the various managers. Am going to have to read up
> > some more articles on it. Perhaps finally dig into some more Martin
> > Fowler or something.
>
> > Again, thanks for the help guys!
>
> > - Greg
>
> > On Oct 1, 2:58 am, Tom Chiverton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > On Sunday 30 Sep 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > > > Part-1#comments) and it made me remember that I am confused on exactly
> > > > what Service CFCs are. I posted this question to the blog, however
> > > > would really like to receive a lot of feedback and different opinions
> > > > on this.
>
> > >http://rachaelandtom.info/building-coldfusion-services-2
>
> > > > I have been getting more into CFCs and proper OO methodologies lately,
> > > > 90% of it is all making sense and every day more and more becomes
> > > > clear,
>
> > > Doing it day and day out sure helps :-)
>
> > > > In my mind a
> > > > Gateway CFC deals with the database when retrieving more then 1
> > > > record.
>
> > > That's how Reactor uses them, sure.
>
> > > > My question is - I find I need to have a CFC that co-ordinates actions
> > > > between multiple beans, takes some sort of action, performs business
> > > > logic on 2 different beans that may represent 1 class or perhaps 2
> > > > classes (eg/ maybe 2 staff benas or 1 staff bean and 1 company bean).
> > > > I am wondering - would this be considered a Service CFC? A Manager
> > > > CFC? Something else?
>
> > > Sounds like a Manager to me.
> > > A Service would deal with the mechanics of locating the thing to do the 
> > > work,
> > > getting it invoked and the results passed back to the caller.
>
> > > --
> > > Tom Chiverton
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